Comments on: Home Invasion Suspects' Parole Questioned

Conn. Official Says Suspects Did Not Have Violent Records Before Murdering Mother, 2 Daughters

[jn122736]

Re. Post by monkfellow at 10:43 AM : Jul 26, 2007

To reach a conclusion that my comment in any way was slanderous to the military requires taking parts of the comment totally out of context.

As to your twisted, disingenuous, wording: %u201CAs to the tortured link to military "killers-in-training",this borders on the slanderous%u201D.

My actual wording was (referring to jdl941%u2019s comment): FROM THAT VIEW POINT all military personnel, especially combat veterans are killers by indoctrination%u201D
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It is true, however, that ground troops are trained to kill or be killed in head-to-head combat. Without this type of training, front line soldiers would, by instinct, hesitate and die unnecessarily.

My comment simply pointed out the fact that military ground-troops are exposed to killing/killers just as the convicted and imprisoned are exposed.

The military%u2019s proven integrity clearly shows the ridiculousness of jdl941%u2019s comment.

As for your claim that, quote %u201Cand if someone is truly innocent,there are mechanisms to get them freed.Depending on the crime%u201D.

If that was true they would never have been convicted in the first place, unless you are referring to new technologies like DNA evidence (years after imprisonment).

The greatest threat to my family and me is the disregard for our proven and mostly fair justice system.

[slim1h2o]

Posted by CRYSTAlblue3 at 11:40 AM : Jul 26, 2007

Sorry,.... you're as sick as the 2 thugs are. Just execute them and be done with it.

And yes they are sick perverts that deserve to die for what they did. Send'em on their way to hell.

[drinuk]

Hey GunownerDan, try living in the UK, 5yrs in the pokey for even possessing a gun, we are locking people up who harm intruders, can you believe that?
Over run with illegal immigrants and our homes are no longer ours, they belong to the SCUM!
Keep your guns American and blow the b a s t a r d s away if they step over your doorway.

[drivelphobe]

cathaleen....

What do you mean, "Let's stop pointing the finger." And to say defecation happens is a bit cavalier don't you think? The daily parole you mention, is a problem. It should be reserved for a very few special situations. You are right, everyone's not as bad as these two, but there are very few innocents in jail and stiffer sentencing can't do anything but help save lives and make the price for crime more than a minor nuisance.

[gunownerdan]

If some violent nut cases break into your home at 3am, don't do what they tell you.
THEY need to do what you tell them.
Stop them immediately and if they don't do what you say, kill or seriously injure them.
PERIOD.
Adults should be able to stop intruders and violent criminals before they harm someone.
In all 50 states it is perfectly legal to defend yourself and shoot violent criminals and intruders in your home, especially if you think they will harm you or if they are threatening your life or someone else's with violence.
CRIMINALS PREFER UNARMED VICTIMS.
They always have and always will.
Responsible armed and prepared citizens who can safely and properly use their firearms are MUCH harder to rob, rape, and kill.
With gun ownership comes responsibility(they aren't toys) and the more training and practice you have the safer you will be.

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[crystalblue3]

Back in the 1600 - 1700's, they used drawn & quartering as a rare but still used death sentence. It included:

1. Being partially or "half" hanged but not to the point of unconsciousness. Then they cut you down.

2. Having all your limbs pulled from their sockets so that they were useless dangling things just hanging there.

3. Having your bowels slit open and lower intestines pulled out and burned in front of your eyes.

4. Finally you're beheaded.

All this done in front of thousands of people. I think this would be a fitting punishment for these creeps. Too bad we can't do it now.

[thehand2020]

It was said he was living with relatives that knew he was a dirty rotten scoundrel,probably even covered for him in the past. Hey I am against it but I would nt be shocked if someone paid his family a visit to retaliate.Maybe the next guy might think twice about doing something so vile if his family were open to retaliation.

[cathaleen]

Let's stop pointing the finger. It is what it is.
Just put them in jail for life. People get paroled everday. Not all are like these two.
**** happens.

[incog-nito]

Predators, violent criminals should be put away for life, period. For other crimes, three strikes and you're out. How many times do we hear about people committing crimes shortly after being released from prison? Yet society never learns from this. Almost 70% of criminals commit a crime within 3 years of release.

[drivelphobe]

Perhaps the entire sentencing menu should be revised. I can't imagine why any sentence should be less than a few years. What good is 3 or 6 months? Just a minor inconvenience. I understand facilities are limited, so let's build what we need. How about handing out a little more of the 25 to life, and reducing or eliminating parole options. It doesn't seem like the parole system works and we could be saving millions of tax-payer dollars without it. An intelligent criminal is able to manipulate to get parole and then anything can happen.

Ask this doctor how he feels about longer sentencing and maybe even the elimination of parole completely. How much would he chip in to build more prisons if it means sparing someone else the massive grief he's going through. How much is too much to save the lives of decent, innocent people just living their lives.

[nolalou]

jdl941,

I don't know how things work in Connecticut, but I can understand why the DA in this case has to make a decision on the Death Penalty, and rather or not to seek it.

I have been on jury duty where I live, and if a case is a 'death penalty' case, you have to find a jury that will agree in advance to 'at least consider the death penalty'. The law also requires 'death penalty' jurors to be sequestered for the duration of the trial. There are lots of people who will not consider the death penalty, and get eliminated from the jury. They also have a hard time finding people who can be away from work or other obligations for weeks at a time, while sequestered. I was one of 150 people packed into a courtroom for 12 hours , while they tried to find 12 people from that group! I was not selected for some reason, but when the trial was over a few weeks later, I read that the suspect was found guilty, but the jury gave him life in prison, and not the death penalty. (you have to have a unanimous vote for the death penalty, if just one juror objects, then he gets life instead).

Whatever happens to these 2 animals, life in prison or death, I don't care, as long as they are NEVER released into society again!

[nolalou]

rushman71,

The news reports say that the suspects had long criminal records of home burglary, and not violent crimes. That's not 'liberal', that just the facts in this case! Since when is reporting the facts 'liberal'. I don't think is going to be used as reason to spare them the death penalty, but a way to explain why they were out on parole. I do agree that the parole system needs to be changed, so that someone with that long of a criminal history is not allowed on the streets. (but you can't sentence someone to life in prison for burglary. so eventually they would have been released).

[monkfellow]

Judging from your comment, anyone who has spent time in prison (including any who may have been innocent) is forever killer-by-indoctrination because of what they learned there. And judging from your comment, and many other comments here, they should simply be terminated because they are unrecoverable.
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Actually, that is correct, and if someone is truly innocent,there are mechanisms to get them freed.Depending on the crime,and whether the indvidual has been in and out of jail,there may be "reedemables" amongst the population,but are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your family on that?
As to the tortured link to military "killers-in-training",this borders on the slanderous.There's no indication either of the people in this case were in the military-given their character,they would wash out on day one.The members of the military who revert to a life of crime when they are discharged have only themselves to blame.They had every opportunity to prepare for a civilian career,and blew it because of their own immaturity or personal weakness. To paint a broad brush is an insult to the millions of Americans protecting us in the military,not to mention their families.

[rushman71]

Put them out in Death Valley.
Posted by retmilspouse

That was a good one!!! Why don't they put ALL of American prisoners there!!! Kind of like where the Soviets used to send their prisoners--up to Siberia!!! Just a little bit nippy up there, though!!!

[barbaraf4]

"How much do you want to bet these two killers were let out of jail on parole to make room for more non-violent potheads?"
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Posted by GunOwnerDan

I believe it. I also believe if we didn't have so many illegal aliens in our prison system, that the problem wouldn't exist.

[rushman71]

antoniof123: I like the term you mentioned on drag them behind a moving car. That gives a new meaning to the term "drag race"!!!

[advanceus]

Maybe Dearington should get out of the way for another prosecutor. He only went for the death penalty once, for a mother and two children? These two guys need to fry, just in case someone else screws up and they get out again to do the same.

[barbaraf4]

"From that view point all military personnel, especially combat veterans are killers by indoctrination also and we should just flush them down the drain because they are beyond rehab.
That is about as un-American as passing judgment based solely on news article data (no trial)."
Posted by jn122736
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You are close to the truth. If you run psychological testing on a group of people to identify the born killers, and you take this group and put then into Special Forces or Seals or whatever spot you need them, then what, exactly do you do with them after the war? Do you really believe we don't have ways of dealing with this if they somehow "revert" after returning to their civilian life? Now, maybe they would have been killers even without the military, but the military has taught them more efficient ways to kill.

[blackbug99]

These officials are backpedalling so fast they could win the "Tour de Farce" in reverse.

[gunownerdan]

How much do you want to bet these two killers were let out of jail on parole to make room for more non-violent potheads?
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