Comments on: TSA To Lift Ban On Most Lighters On Planes

Security Chief Says Taking Lighters Away From Passengers Was "Security Theater"

[fake-id-2009]

Well, I'm sure right about now every liberal out there is tryin his dangdest to type in, "I bet George Bush is going to sell his Bic lighter stock now." Posted by speakinup at 04:30 PM : Jul 20, 2007
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dis librl caint tipe berry wel butt i new som assshole outt derr wood maik itda librl ting soonerorlader.

whodaphuck is jorge boosh n whaddaphuck be a bic liter?

[feelfree1]

Related:

"WASHINGTON, July 20 (RIA Novosti) - A former Reagan official has issued a public warning that the Bush administration is preparing to orchestrate a staged terrorist attack in the United States, transform the country into a dictatorship and launch a war with Iran within a year."

"Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, blasted Thursday a new Executive Order, released July 17, allowing the White House to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies and giving the government expanded police powers to exercise control in the country."

"Roberts, who spoke on the Thom Hartmann radio program, said: "When Bush exercises this authority [under the new Executive Order], there's no check to it. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule."

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070720/69340886.html

[toolmangler-2009]

WISH a law could be passed for safer gear (aside from just helmets) would be passed... I ride and can't help but cringe when I see someone with a helmet, tank top, shorts and flip-flops riding a motorcycle. Your head is not the only thing that needs protecting!
Posted by sykosam at 03:11 PM : Jul 20, 2007


I am against helmet laws but I also think you are stupid (ill_advised) If you do not wear a helmet when riding, I do and I've been riding motorcycles since 1952. I don't believe the insurance industry should make my premiums go up to cover non helmeted injuries. Just don't pay them. Do not reward stupidity. I wore helmets long before they were manditory and they saved my head several times.

[speakinup]

Well, I'm sure right about now every liberal out there is tryin his dangdest to type in, "I bet George Bush is going to sell his Bic lighter stock now."

Thought I'd throw one in for the gimper - ya'll are beginnin to sound like you need it. Yup, one and a half years. Hope ya'll make it.

[tropikbreze]

They didn't do a very good job chasing lighters- I forgot I had one in my purse flying out of LA and they did not see it through the x-ray...

[bospip]

* Correction *

I meant to say I agree with macusweil "Tell me how allowing fire on a plane makes us safer?"
By letting security staff focus on real threats to safety instead of chasing Bic lighters and babys with sippy cups.

Not tropikbreze...

[bospip]

You've got to be kidding me!! Are they for real or what? Yet another fine example inviting MORE danger our way. There is no such word as "safe" anymore. It's a joke and these morons making these decisions should be ashamed of themselves.

This is beyond ridiculous and I agree with tropikbreze and mojopo1 "What a stupid thing to do. Next, they're going to lift the ban on steak knives or boxcutters (the very tools used 9/11) on planes.....then maybe they'll lift the ban on handguns (only rifles would be aloud). IDIOTS!!"

*PERFECTLY SAID MOJO!!!

A few years go by and there they go FORGETTING what happened!!

Oh yeah, this makes me feel much safer. Complete stupidity!

[speakinup]

Guess FeelFree1 would know, he got birthed from it. I wanna know how it's possible to type when your mama has you handcuffed to eight other people. Oh, you are mama.

[grammawhamma]

Security screeners now collect an average of 22,000 lighters a day, and it costs about $4 million a year to dispose of them, the Times reported.

I'm not a smoker, but why didn't they just leave them in a box for people to take when they had arrived at their destination.

Silly government thinking.
Posted by sandy19731 at 01:58 PM : Jul 20, 2007

Perfect solution Sandy!! Will you run for president?? At least someone still has common sense.

[djberson]

Great, now put the ashtrays back into the armrests and we're in business!

[feelfree1]

Related:

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush will undergo what aides described as a routine colonoscopy on Saturday"

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Researchers at the Guinness World Records believe that this represents the biggest ****** ever inspected, using this procedure.

[tropikbreze]

Sykosam-
I completely understand and agree with those who do not want the second hand smoke. (I have not smoked all my life)The first time I have had to deal with no smoking in public places was in Burbank,CA a couple years ago. It was a pain to have a couple sips of beer then go outside to smoke. However, I abided by the law. The restaurant/bar owners in my area are trying to get lawmakers to consider that private owned rest./bars could make it their choice whether they want their establishment to be smoking or non. Especially if it is posted outside their facility. This area has a high population of smokers- we are not in the sticks. We are actually a small tourist town. I got off the subject of what the whole article was about- anyway, good luck with updated laws to protect those on bikes.

[sykosam-2009]

tropikbreze, smoking and helmet laws are state laws (obviously not the legal age to smoke, but where you smoke). Here in CA, one of the more strict states in this country, you can't smoke indoors in *public* places and you can't ride a motorcycle without a helmet (or a bicycle, for that matter). These laws are for non-smokers who don't want to poison their bodies just because smokers want to (and, in regards to the helmet, for safety reasons) and/or, for those who may jump on the "secondhand smoke is fairly harmless" train, don't want to be around cigarette smoke. Private places don't have to adhere to non-smoking laws, so far as I'm aware. :)

I WISH a law could be passed for safer gear (aside from just helmets) would be passed... I ride and can't help but cringe when I see someone with a helmet, tank top, shorts and flip-flops riding a motorcycle. Your head is not the only thing that needs protecting!

I do think many of TSA's restrictions are awful (the liquid and gel cr4p is quite annoying, especially if you're not checking any bags!), and am glad that this lighter one is lifted, be it smokers or not. It isn't, after all, just smokers (or terrorists, haha) who carry lighters.

[tropikbreze]

I am a smoker who wishes I could quit. However, as the nation works at taking away my freedom to choose to smoke- (especially in a private-owned business)it makes me want to smoke all the more. You have to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle, but not a helmet when you are on a motorcycle (in PA). The laws do not make sense. As long as I continue to smoke, I will be a law-biding citizen regarding smoking laws. I just wish non-smokers would back off a bit. Leave the lighter issue alone. I'd like to see the lawmakers try to ban alcohol again- I bet that wouldn't fly too far!

[macusweil]

"Tell me how allowing fire on a plane makes us safer?"

By letting security staff focus on real threats to safety instead of chasing Bic lighters and babys with sippy cups.

[macusweil]

How refreshing, common sense!!

Bush and his cronies are just killing us with all their useless knee jerk reactions since 9/11 that take away our freedoms and our eye off the ball.

[r-u-kidding]

Hey sandy19731,
What a great idea. TSA can collect lighters on the way in and put them in a box and allow arriving passengers to take one of the confiscated lighters with them as they're leaving the airport. Deposit yours before your departure and pick up someone elses when you land. HOW EASY IS THAT?? Total Cost= $0.

[mojopo1]

HA! I just blogged about this Tuesday!
http://mojopo.blogspot.com/2007/07/confession-time.html

During the entire time this ban was in effect, not ONE of my lighters was ever confiscated. I never hid them - they were always in my coat or purse. It's about time someone used their common sense and stopped wasting our time.

[r-u-kidding]

BIC stock just went down. 22,000 lighters a day?!? That's gonna take a chunk out of their sales.

Hey, why do people need to take lighters on anyway. Smoking isn't aloud on planes and it's a small minority of people that smoke anyway. Here's an idea, matches are free at the bar....they cost nothing. Just keep taking the lighters away, because I certainly feel safer knowing that nobody carries matches and lighters on planes.

What a stupid thing to do. Next, they're going to lift the ban on steak knives or boxcutters (the very tools used 9/11) on planes.....then maybe they'll lift the ban on handguns (only rifles would be aloud). IDIOTS!!!

[imthebhagwan]

I'm sure the tobacco lobby had something to do with this. Tell me how allowing fire on a plane makes us safer?