Comments on: Marine: Violence Ordered Against Iraqis

Corporal Testifies Marines Routinely Beat Iraqis After Officers Demanded They "Crank Up" Violence

tbweb wrote:

"Flew plans? Where's the 'e', you mean planes? If you knew how to spell you would be dangerous! Usually spelling errors are also indicators of comprehension errors as well. So its no use exchanging with an illiterate, incompetent obviously brain damaged shell shocked Marine, Sempi Fi dude! Report to sick bay and take your meds!"

There you go again - crying like a little b|tch.

I don't believe that you were a marine - your far too whiny a b|tch to have ever been a marine.

[tbweb]

For someone who claims to be a "marine vet" (and I've never once heard you claim this before), you sure do squeal like a little b|tch.

Posted by mcdazz at 07:08 AM : Jul 16, 2007,,,

Provide some squeal like a little b|tch proof, what are you referring too? Post it or shut up! You must have me mixed up with FeelSicko1. You just yapping, throw some dirt in it! LOL

[tbweb]

So because a bunch of Religious Extremist flew plans

Posted by MCVet at 07:10 AM : Jul 16, 2007,,,

Flew plans? Where's the 'e', you mean planes? If you knew how to spell you would be dangerous! Usually spelling errors are also indicators of comprehension errors as well. So its no use exchanging with an illiterate, incompetent obviously brain damaged shell shocked Marine, Sempi Fi dude! Report to sick bay and take your meds!

[mcvet]

Hey Peace-Nik..........was it uniformed soldiers or "terrorists in civilian clothes" that flew the planes into the World Trade Centers KILLIING OVER 3000 INNOCENT "CIVILIAN" AMERICANS ????? If I was one of those Marines accused of killing a "known" terrorist and planting a rifle next to his dead cold body, I could and would sleep very, very, good at night, knowning that he will never again kill another American serviceman or or cut off the head of a innocent civilian !!!
God, you whiny ACLU cowards make me sick.....
Posted by nickw46 at 02:47 AM : Jul 16, 2007

So because a bunch of Religious Extremist flew plans into our buildings that justifies killing those who we told the WORLD we were out to free? If that's the case then there should be few alive in the states of the deep south because we'd have been justified in Killing them all because of the actions of the Klan. People we have got to stop with this garbage! Any FOOL can see that the WORLD Wide hatred for our present leaders and our present course of action is growing, as is our FAILURE in fighting those who wish us harm. It's not stupid to try a policy. It IS stupid to keep it up when it's so obvious it's a complete and absolute failure. It's okay to follow people who pound their chest and insult your friends UNTIL it becomes obvious THEY are creating enemy, then it's STUPID!! Sieg Heil Bush.

tbweb wrote:

"Stop trying to fool and manipulate new Posters, you know I'm a Marine Vet! The way you tell half truths and manipulate facts and spin tales to support your far left wing views is truly amazing FeelSick1 and you try to do this under the cover of this nice innocent Poster. Nothing you Post is Pro-American, you are not an American and this was proven many months ago in other Blogs where you were viciously attacked, at least I see you've toned it down a bit after those blast! You really should be Posting in the Disney Land area."

For someone who claims to be a "marine vet" (and I've never once heard you claim this before), you sure do squeal like a little b|tch.

[tbweb]

Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:56 AM : Jul 16, 2007,,,

Stop trying to fool and manipulate new Posters, you know I'm a Marine Vet! The way you tell half truths and manipulate facts and spin tales to support your far left wing views is truly amazing FeelSick1 and you try to do this under the cover of this nice innocent Poster. Nothing you Post is Pro-American, you are not an American and this was proven many months ago in other Blogs where you were viciously attacked, at least I see you've toned it down a bit after those blast! You really should be Posting in the Disney Land area.

[tbweb]

Posted by RandalDS at 02:04 AM : Jul 16, 2007,,,

Yo RandalDS, I hung around for a few hours answering Post and you waited until I went to bed to crawl out of your far left wing hole to Post your far left wing views along with FeelSick1. Many NEW soldiers don't know if some orders are illegal or not, they may suspect the order is illegal but many will error on the side of following all orders given to them. I still say a lot you Posting here never served in the military a day in your life and don't have any idea what its really like, day in and day out, except from playing your video games. The military is about killing somebody in its essence and there really is no nice to way to do that. The U.S. is fighting a very nasty, very tricky and elusive enemy and I'll be willing to bet based on pure instincts and experience that many of the U.S. 3,601 dead were nice, trusting, obey all the rules 'blindly' people like you and they are no longer with us. The enemy knows our rules of engagement too and use those rules in a lot of cases to kill us! Our military are the only ones playing by the rules in this war and in many cases paying for it with their lives.

[smirk5]

At least 80 people have been killed in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk in a coordinated attack by a suicide truck bomber in a crowded market and a separate car bomb parked on a busy street, police say.
Iraqi police said 136 people were wounded in the Kirkuk blasts Monday and warned that the death toll could rise further.

A Reuters cameraman on the scene described carnage after the truck bomb in the market, near an office of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the party of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.

The explosion scattered bodies across the market, set dozens of cars on fire and trapped passengers on a bus where they burned to death, the cameraman said.

The car bomb exploded in a commercial area called Iskan, near shops and a bus garage, police said. The two blasts came within minutes of each

Maybe Saudis did this. Who knows?
It's just another Monday in Iraq.

[smirk5]

At least 80 people killed and 136 wounded in twin car bomb attacks in Iraqi northern city of Kirkuk, police say. Details soon.

[lars008-2009]

give them medals...

If they can kill us, we can kill them

Qaeda warns of attacks 'worse than 9/11'
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out 'Martyrdom' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[randalds]

nickw, please try reading again
"Unable to find him, the Marines and corpsman dragged another man from his house, fatally shot him, and then planted an AK-47 assault rifle near the body "
Posted by monstersound at 03:46 AM : Jul 16, 2007

That's right. There is no evidence that the man they chose AT RANDOM was anything other then an innocent victim. They couldn't find who they were looking for so they just grabbed the first man they saw and killed him instead. No matter how you feel about this war that is still 100% inexcusable undeniable and unforgivable first degree murder. They should hang.

[toldyouso21]

went in the Marines at a good time. I'm happy I didn't serve with people like FeelFree1, red164, wise80, DylanXXV and toldyouso21. The biggest difference is Posted by tbweb at 10:26 PM : Jul 15, 2007


You'd be a hero if you served now. You would have been eliminated by 'friendly fire' --but you'd still be a hero and they'd tell your family so. Not because you did anything brave or were a good person, or because we were really fighting for democracy, freedom or oil....you'd be called a hero so your family would not look like sore losers and complain about your death. You'd be shot accidently on purpose, because the rest of your unit would determined you were too brainwashed, depraved and stupid to live.

you'd be plotting to just kill a bunch of people and they'd tillman your fake, patriotic but not too bright azz. lmao

[MonsterSound]

nickw, please try reading again
"Unable to find him, the Marines and corpsman dragged another man from his house, fatally shot him, and then planted an AK-47 assault rifle near the body "

[nickw46]

Hey Peace-Nik..........was it uniformed soldiers or "terrorists in civilian clothes" that flew the planes into the World Trade Centers KILLIING OVER 3000 INNOCENT "CIVILIAN" AMERICANS ????? If I was one of those Marines accused of killing a "known" terrorist and planting a rifle next to his dead cold body, I could and would sleep very, very, good at night, knowning that he will never again kill another American serviceman or or cut off the head of a innocent civilian !!!
God, you whiny ACLU cowards make me sick.....

[randalds]

Excellent point, 'RandalDS'.


Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:59 AM : Jul 16, 2007

far too many people in the military try to use the "just following order" or "fog of war" defenses to try to excuse out and out barbarism, rape and murder and they make all of us vets look bad by it. They are not my brothers. What these Marines did was and is inexcusable. It's murder and the one who pulled the trigger should hang.

[feelfree1]

Re: "You're wrong. A soldier must only obey LAWFUL orders, not any orders. The "I was just obeying orders" idea in not a legal defense in a Courts Martial. A soldier is expressly forbidden by the UCMJ to follow orders that they know to be illegal."

Excellent point, 'RandalDS'.

No wonder Iraqis see Americans as their enemy.

I wonder how Americans would feel if the situation was reversed, and if Iraq had invaded the United States and begin treating Americans as badly.

[feelfree1]

DylanXXV,

The poster 'tbweb' is now suddenly claiming to be a 'Marine' veteran, and attempting to use this claim as cover to bolster his 'apologist for war crimes and atrocities' efforts.

If 'tbweb' ever served a day of military service, it is a safe bet that his/her service was in the Israeli Defense Forces, and his/her only likely specialty was hiding behind 'human shields', as is so very common in the IDF.

[randalds]

I don't think none of you could serve in the military and definitely not my old unit, your own men would shoot you! In combat if you disobey an order, the rules change dramatically, for example in a fighting situation if you walk away from the fight your men can legally shoot and kill you for deserting and from reading a lot of these p u s s y Post, the lot of you would be dead from American bullets! I'm just happy none of you losers served with me, none of you would make it in war with your sissy b u l l s h i t.
Posted by tbweb at 10:26 PM : Jul 15, 2007

There is a huge difference between cowardice under fire and cold blooded murder. This was a murder and as such was illegal, even if their CO was standing right there ordering them to do it. Troops are NOT trained to blindly follow orders and you dam*n well know it or you're lying about serving.

[randalds]

The U.S. Military is a dictatorship! When a soldier receives an order he/she must obey that order or he/she gets a Court Martial and some form of punishment, usually jail or worst, its as simple as that.

Posted by tbweb at 11:50 PM : Jul 15, 2007

You're wrong. A soldier must only obey LAWFUL orders, not any orders. The "I was just obeying orders" idea in not a legal defense in a Courts Martial. A soldier is expressly forbidden by the UCMJ to follow orders that they know to be illegal.