Comments on: Mom And Talkative Tot Kicked Off Plane

Ga. Woman Says Stewardess Told Her To Drug Her Child To Keep Him Quiet

[toldyouso21]

Do you think the flight attendant was angry about her job or what?! Has any one of you tried to keep a young child quiet for 11 hours? It's impossible, it's not happening. Passengers already have to wait hours and sometimes days before their plane takes off, it's a shame they have to be harassed when they finally get on the plane too.
Posted by mandylou4u at 03:31 PM : Jul 12, 2007


I have to disagree with you. I routinely flew to Europe from America at least 2X a year for the past 14 years. I had babies from a few months old to toddlers on many a flight. The flights not only lasted for over 11 hours, but often involved long layovers in various airports. Try going from Indiana to N. J then from there to London Heathrow and finally on to Ireland or on to Italy or Spain. My kids NEVER cried*, spoke loudly, argued or threw tantrums. I brought my kids up to be mindful of others and their property and rights. I also raised them to have manners. My last child was a very colickly baby. It took all manners of toys, books, distractions to get her to quiet down. I never medicated except with my teat in her mouth. I even flew when one was teething. All kids are different, but if a parent is truly RAISING their child, and know what they are doing and do it from day 1; most problems can be handled.

[alexsmom3]

Oh, Mr. Shut Up Freak.....you obviously did not even read the article. There was nothing in there about the child screaming or crying. Go back and reread the article....then if you feel like making some for idiotic comments have at it. Some people should never reproduce...or go out in public for that matter.

[toldyouso21]

Children can be trained to be decent and respectful people from day 1, even before they are cognizant of right and wrong. The problem is, too many people are so enarmored with the bit of flesh they made that they think the kid should be able to do whatever they like and that everyone will adore and coo and accept their child no matter what. Nope.

I raised 5 kids. 3 are Adults with one soon to be next year. My kids never ran around restaurants, kicked chairs or played around on planes, at the movies, at the malls, etc. Did not scream or run like crazy in public, did not steal, curse and NEVER, ever threw tantrums. When they are infants, it starts with firmly and CONSISTENTLY taking them by the hand and firmly saying NO. When they know you mean it, they stop. NO for the tantrums, NO for the running, NO for the seat kicking, NO for touching other people's things--it gets a little deeper as they mature. The fact is, many people are not raised, so have no clue about how to control and raise someone else. You raise kids to fit into society, which is a lot different than just having and loving them just for yourself and your own enjoyment.

[toldyouso21]

Even if their kid is a monster that they failed to raise correctly. But this kid was not even 1 and if the remarks about the FA are true--then it is SHE and not the baby that are the true nightmare.


CORRECTION:

Even if their kid is a monster that they failed to raise correctly. But this kid was not even 2 YEARS OLD and if the remarks about the FA are true--then it is SHE and not the baby that are the true nightmare.

[alexsmom3]

This is to the sea of green momma. I can only imagine what your children will grow up to be. You have obviously never taken a 19 month old on a plane EVER. I can see how a baby saying "Bye, Bye plane" would be oh so annoying. Come on....They didn't say the infant was sreaming or crying for that matter. Can you say by a flippin pair of earplugs passengers?

[toldyouso21]

The reason absolute power cannot be granted to any one person or any group of people--is that people get drunk on it and decide they can say and do whatever they like---to everyone else.

Now. I travel a lot and have had my share of parents who do not control their seat kicking, hair pulling, whining and crying kids--to the point where I may fantasize about putting them off the plane BUT a fantasy and reality are 2 different things. I realize the mom and/or dad and/or caregiver has paid for a ticket just like me--and have every right to be there. Even if their kid is a monster that they failed to raise correctly. But this kid was not even 1 and if the remarks about the FA are true--then it is SHE and not the baby that are the true nightmare.

I still remember the flight to Paris from L.A where we had the crew from hell. They did everything from yell at us to throwing food at the passengers and because a woman did not want a dish of pre-opened, dried out spaghetti; the FA (a man) yelled at her, grabbed the spaghetti out of the dish with his hands and told her to eat up or shut up, when she refused to eat it and said she would complain, he and the others took off their name tags and refused to serve us drinks or anything else. I saw the entire thing and went with this person to complain. That same flight went down a few years later in DC on its way to Paris (TWA flight) bet a lot hope that evil FA was working that day.

[michellem99-2009]

I think there sure a space where Mum and child can have the time needed to take of what needs to be done. We are brats too. Women can block it out. I aksed Mum how do you do it, TV yakking,sister playing a record,on ans on. She said I block it out. I don't hear everything. Your children are our adults when grown up. One of my foster Mums ran a day care before she lost her license for abuse. I know I reported it a parent who asked. I helped care for. The foster mun did. She was mad but I thot good yer don't children.

[grammawhamma]

I would rather have a toddler sitting next to me saying bye bye plane then an adult stranger going on and on in detail about their past surgeries etc. I admit alot of kids are unruley little brats....but there is so much more worse stuff to complain about in this life then having to spend a few hours listening to a toddler babble. You people that have no tolerance for anything must be leading a miserable life!!

[annia1233]

First, children's brain (at 19 months) is not developed enough to understand, cope and control their behaviors. They are starting to develop coping mechanisms.There is no way to change people's mind those that consider children a nuisance and a bother to all. What we mothers do in such cases and facing such people is to PROTECT our children and keep those people very well controlled with also certain show or display of power.So THOSE people that would prefer dumping our children through the air lock think twice before even looking at that child in a bad way. believe me I have found people like that on my way and the way of other mothers and they have been corrected with few cursing and display of "Do not mess with me or my child".You know why? because if they present a violent face to me and my child, I have the right to respond back the same way.So here I say to all those that dare to mistreat a child that they will always be faced with a protective mother and few other mothers in the crowd. I am not talking about a child out of control with a tantrum that will bring the plain down, any ways a child with a tantrum can not possible bring a plane down. Only adults with no autocontrol and rage issues can be affected by the cry of a child.
It all comes down to protecting my child against your irrational adult behavior.
Be an adult and behave and control yourself. A child saying "Bye, bye plane" is not bother at all

[boston1954]

All of you who do not have kids CAN NOT give a valid comment on this subject AT ALL!!!
Posted by aforet2 at 05:15 PM : Jul 12, 2007

As a former babysitter, I DISAGREE.

[momofmot]

For those who cannot stand the presence of an innocent tot, go back and ask your mother how you behaved when you were a kid. Weren't you ever a child before you became an adult? Every child's behavior is different from other child specially when he had to stay in the crowd and a tight space like the airport/air plane for a prolong period. A 19-months-child is not yet aware of his behavior and actions. The development of this age is being curious and learning his surroundings. For God love children, please spill out those harsh and crude words toward the child and his mother. Go to the bookstore and get a book What to Expect the Toddler Years to read for yourself.

[boston1954]

I've always thought flight attendants should be drawn from the ranks of experienced elementary school teachers; they know how to handle almost any situation with aplomb.
Posted by scottiemac52 at 03:45 PM : Jul 12, 2007

My Mom would be proud to see this. She taught 4th grade.

[my2centss]

"...or off the plane."
Posted by coffeehead at 04:32 PM : Jul 13, 2007

Maybe to the wing till they cool off and stop talking? What do we do to the adult who thinks everyone wants to hear them, or the person on the phone that makes everyone listen to them in the plane, movies, restaraunt, street, mall, etc...? I think some people forget that kids are people too.

[momofmot]

For those who cannot stand the presence of an innocent tot, go back and ask your mother how you behaved when you were a kid. Weren't you ever a child before you became an adult? Every child's behavior is different from other child specially when he had to stay in the crowd and a tight space like the airport/air plane for a prolong period. A 19-months-child is not yet aware of his behavior and actions. The development of this age is being curious and learning his surroundings. For God love children, please spill out those harsh and crude words toward the child and his mother. Go to the bookstore and get a book What to Expect the Toddler Years to read for yourself.

[coffeehead-2009]

So what rights do other passengers have when their trip is unbearable because a coddling parent wants their CHILD to have a "pleasant" flight?

Start childless flights for those of us who are tired of enabling parents who think nothing of others rights or comfort. It is a selfish country these days - I see screaming kids in stores with overbearing parents ignoring their rudeness. Yes - at 19 months my kids knew better than to be demons in public. Part of parenting is TEACHING them; even if it means that you walk out of the restaraunt, into a restroom or off the plane.

She should have been asked to go to an area of the plane that was isolated and calm the kid down - respect others and stop putting your and your childs WANTS before the needs of other.

[grammawhamma]

This kid doesn't sound like he was being a brat to me. Those of you who have no tolerance of others perhaps you should fly first class...as most families with kids are in coach.

[blue_eyes68]

I have flown alot over the yrs and I haev run into more bratting adults than children and I would not consider a crying baby a brat (they cry cause tired, ears plugging up, etc....) What are the adults excuses for the way they behave on planes (and other places for that matter).

[erasmus6]

"First off, I'd like to know who EVER has gotten "addicted" to Benadryl." posted by stewie3128

The kid may not get "addicted" but he/she could end up DEAD! There are children that have died from it.

Also, it's the parents that get "addicted". They get ADDICTED to giving it to them to shut them up!

[jw218389]

THE AIRLINES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, they treat their employees like *** and the employees treat the passengers like ***.

I would love to be an attorney so I could SUE the airline for suggesting an unethical and potentially unsafe, "off-label" use of a medical drug.

She should sue the B@stards

[family2007-2009]

Jimibear,

I respectfully disagree. First, your views don't take into account the fact that the flight itself was extremely delayed. And second, it doesn't take into account the fact that parents have the right to travel with that children.

You say such families shouldn't travel on planes--

"Which should mean that you don't take the kid on the plane, not that everyone else has to deal with your 'fact of life.'"

It's just as foreseeable that what I mentioned would happen on trains or busses. In fact, it becomes more likely because those modes of transportation are slower. So evidently parents with young children shouldn't be allowed to travel this way, either. And heaven forbid if we're dealing with an international flight, which by definition, can take upwards of many hours. And there's usually no reasonable alternative mode of transporation in these cases, BTW.

See how absurd the argument is...?