Comments on: 5 Die As Small Plane Hits 2 Houses

While Attempting Emergency Landing Tuesday Morning In Suburban Orlando

[down-ndirty]

S_Temper, transportation rates of death are based on "MILES TRAVELED" not population. LOL!!This is from the SAME Wikipedia you sourced:

"Air travel is the safest form of transportation available. Trains have .04 deaths for every 100 million miles while air travel has .01 deaths for every 100 million miles traveled. However, compared to the automobile, with .94 deaths per 100 million miles, both figures are relatively low."

Let's see... if I can do the difficult math involved...I'm 94 more times likely to die in an automobile than in an airplane.

End of discussion. Anything else you say is just BS. The facts speak for themselves. You drive; I'll fly.

[down-ndirty]

down-ndirty: So Kennedy's WIFE'S FAMILY owned the plane. What's the difference???
Posted by S_Temper at 01:05 AM : Jul 11, 2007
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Actually the plane was owned by International Speedway Corporation (ISC), a publicly owned company. Being chairman, or even president of a corporation doesn't mean that person owns it. So, by your logic, all the ISC stock owners are liable. LOL!!
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And the argument that planes are safer than cars is BS. Pilots hold the second most dangerous occupation in the US: Posted by S_Temper at 01:00 AM : Jul 11, 2007
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That's a weak argument and doesn't explain why more people die in automobile crashes. In fact, autos are the number one killers of teenagers. That wouldn't be true if drivers, especially teenagers, had the driving skills equivalent to the skills of pilots.

You have a bias, S_Temper. The fact that you compare pit bulls to airplanes proves it.

And for you being a libertarian...THATS BS!!

[nyteryder2]

"Also, I believe people should have the right to own a pitbull or any other type of dog, but if the dog gets loose and hurts or kills someone, the owner should be held responsible. ... This was not an accident, because it is very reasonable to expect these small planes to crash" Posted by S_Temper at 12:42 AM : Jul 11, 2007

By your stated reasoning ...

...I get that it's ok to own a dangerous pit bull but not fly a plane.

...I get that it's reasonable to expect an airplane to fall out of the sky but not reasonable for a pit bull to get loose and kill someone.

...I get that it's ok to drive automobiles but not fly airplanes, inspite of the fact that airplanes are far safer than automobiles.

...I get that you say you are a libertarian who vehemently promotes individual rights, unless someone wants to do something you oppose. LOL!!

[dirtydog55]

"dirtydog55, Kennedy OWNED the plane. The owner is just as strictly liable for damages as the pilot." Posted by S_Temper at 12:42 AM : Jul 11, 2007
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S_Temper, you and others need to improve your reading comprehension.

Can you show me the text in the article said that Kennedy owned the plane? Kennedy was NOT the late chairman of NASCAR; his father-in-law was.

Can you show me the text in the article said that Kennedy was flying the plane?

Do you really think, FOR A MINUTE!, that the owner of that plane, or perhaps the dead pilot, whomever he is, will NOT be held liable for the damage and lives the ACCIDENT took. That's what they have INSURANCE for.

Do you really think, FOR A MINUTE!, that because airplanes don't use roads and highways, they get a FREE RIDE!

Get your head out of the sand. Airplanes and pilots are INSURED; car and drivers are INSURED (at least in my state); pit bulls and their owners are NOT insured.

Regardless of whether they're insured or not, they are still subject to being sued for damages.

Take some reading comprehension classes and then read the article again.

[down-ndirty]

"How is it any different when someone is DRIVING a private CAR NEAR my house? The definition of an "accident" is an "unexpected and undesirable event." This was not an accident, because it is very reasonable to expect these CARS to crash; and if they DRIVE NEAR densely populated areas, innocent people on the ground are knowingly placed in harm's way by the DRIVERS. The legal term for liability without fault is "strict liability" and applies when a person engages in (1) abnormally dangerous activities, (2) keeping animals, or (3) selling defective, unreasonably dangerous products. Even if they have not acted intentionally or negligently, people who engage in these activities are strictly liable for damages to others. DRIVING CARS is an abnormally dangerous activity, whether you want to admit it or not, and you should be held strictly liable."

I changed the words around a little. Get the picture?

dirtydog55, Kennedy OWNED the plane. The owner is just as strictly liable for damages as the pilot.
Posted by S_Temper at 12:42 AM : Jul 11, 2007

From the article: "The plane was registered to a Daytona Beach company linked to NASCAR's late chairman."

Jeeeeseus!! Doesn't anyone know how to read? Plus you are a VERY UNREASONABLE person if you think it is reasonable to expect airplane to crash and not expect automobiles to crash.

The fact that you think it's ok to own dangerous and uncontrollable pit bulls proves my point.

[down-ndirty]

"TO SAY MR. TRAVOLTA FITS IN THAT ARROGRANT CATAGORY, IS NOT SO, AND NOT TRUE AND, SOUNDS MORE TO ME LIKE JEALOSY, THAN FACTS !!! MR. JOHN TRAVOLTA HAS SPENT MOST OF HIS MONEY GENERATED FROM ACTING ON PERFECTING HIS FLYING ABILITIES AND, IS CERTIFIED TO FLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF AIRCRAFT, ... THE COMMENT WAS UNFOUNDED ABOVE !!!!" Posted by JetRanger7 at 11:38 PM : Jul 10, 2007
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The comment was founded on the fact that Travolta needlessly burns up precious fossile fuels to feed his own ego. Is he "above" going to the nearest airport and flying as a passenger? Yes. Does he really need to fly himself around in a Boeing 707 when his Gulfstream is far more efficient? No. He does it to feed his ego.

Mr. Travolta?? Do you work for him? Is that why you defend him?

Besides, unfounded or not, I have a right to my opinion.

OBTW: TYPING IN ALL CAPS ADDS NOTHING TO YOUR COMMENTARY!!!

[jetranger7]

AS FOR THE STATEMENT ABOUT JOHN TRAVOLTA, MENTIONED ABOVE-- MR.TRAVOLTA IS A SERIOUS AVATION BUFF AND PILOT, AND TAKES HIS FLYING SERIOUS AS WELL AS THE MAINTENCE ON HIS AIRCRAFT !AS FAR AS THE EGOS OF SOME OF THESE RICH PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER DOCTORS OR ACTORS OR MULTI-MILLIONAIRES, MANY OF THEM ARE NOT SERIOUS AVAITION BUFFS WHO ARE RENTLESS ABOUT MAINTENCE, AND OFTEN DO NOT DESIRE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON MAINTENCE AND PROPER UP KEEP, OR CONSTANT ANNUALS, AND ONLY WANT TO FLY THE PLANE. MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN NEGLECT ON THEIR HIGH DOLLAR EXPENSIVE SPORTS CARS AS WELL, JUST IMAGINE THEIR AIRCRAFT !!! SO TO SAY MR. TRAVOLTA FITS IN THAT ARROGRANT CATAGORY, IS NOT SO, AND NOT TRUE AND, SOUNDS MORE TO ME LIKE JEALOSY, THAN FACTS !!! MR. JOHN TRAVOLTA HAS SPENT MOST OF HIS MONEY GENERATED FROM ACTING ON PERFECTING HIS FLYING ABILITIES AND, IS CERTIFIED TO FLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF AIRCRAFT, INCLUDING THE ONES HE OWNS AND PROFESSIONALLY MAINTAINS !!!! THE COMMENT WAS UNFOUNDED ABOVE !!!! THANK-YOU- JETRANGER 0007

[jw218389]

Hey Airplane Haters,

Keep this in mind - more people died driving on I-95 today than died in this plane crash...

Maybe we should be talking about banning cars and "their egotistical owners?"

It's amazing how many Americans want to destroy their (and other's) freedoms...

[dirtydog55]

"Does anyone know appx how far Sanford is from Orlando?" Posted by aerodog at 01:38 PM : Jul 10, 2007
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About 20 miles from downtown Orlando. Sanford is on Lake Monroe. The Sanford airport used to be Naval Air Station Sanford.

If they approached Sanford airport from the west or northwest they had almost no chance of putting it down in an empty field, or lake. Lake Monroe is about 2 miles north of the airport and Lake Jessup is about 2 miles south.

[mercer_rd]

RE: "My problem is with these small planes and the egotistical owners and passengers who think their time is too valuable to fly on a commercial airline. ... Small, privately owned planes are notorious for deadly crashes ... " Posted by S_Temper at 02:27 PM : Jul 10, 2007"

So is your Ford Tempo