Comments on: Officials Confirm They Got Killer Bear

Bear Dragged 11-Year-Old Boy From His Family's Tent In Utah

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by sjw1253 June 19, 2007 6:12 PM EDT

Addressed to: MityWhity & Prolegomena

Gee - you 2 really spew some nasty words to people...

I believe the law of nature is that the strong survive. The fact is that we - humans - who have a different capacity to think and make weapons can artificially make ourselves stronger than the other living beings on this earth.

With our brains - we must be responsible - as we all have our purpose. Some of our purposes may seem quite obvious - but others may not be so.

I think you need to think about your "co*key" attitudes toward wildlife - as none of us really know what our true purpose is...

Now - if you don't have the capacity to try a little philosophy - that is okay... Some human with a bigger gun and lesser brain than you may eventually get you as you continue to advocate for the right for all to bear arms...

That's MHO - and I do agree with the others - we should not seek revenge on an animal for doing what an animal does in their own native surroundings. It is a small mind that does this.

I too have a wonderful grandson - and I know that if this happened to him I would be distraught. I only hope that someone with a better sense of right and wrong would be there to maintain a proper balance in thinking.

What do you think that killing the bear will do? Send a message to the other bears that killing a child is wrong???



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by bobacorn June 19, 2007 6:08 PM EDT
Stephen Colbert, it seems, was right to place bears on his top 10 threats facing America. JK
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by kennergirl June 19, 2007 5:42 PM EDT
I have a son that is almost 11 years old. Now I know why I don't like to go camping.
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by davegf June 19, 2007 5:35 PM EDT
prolegomena,

I despise superstitious, voodoo loving, bible thumpers like you.

You live in a fnatasy world, a lot like crytal meth addicts.

You're an animal. Nothing more. No silly god gave you special rights, despite what your little fantasy book might say.

Think suicide.
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by June 19, 2007 5:28 PM EDT
bogusbones, I agree with you.
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by prolegomena June 19, 2007 5:26 PM EDT
One of the great philosphical failings of our time, is that we are often unable to define what is disctive about human-ness and non-human-ness. Nature is nature, that is sure, but the creatures who inhabit it are not of equal status, value, or person-hood.

I weep for this boy and his family. I weep also that his family did not carry adequate tools into the wilderness to deal with the incursion of a sub-human intruder. What happened, that we no longer think it prudent to carry a firearm into the wilderness, as all the early explorers did, and wise explorers still do.

If a person comes into my family, no matter where we are, and attempts to drag off my children, that person will not benefit from "bouncing around" the judicial system-- they will be shot on sight. How much more so for a creature such as this, which is not blessed by its creator with person-hood. Nature is to be managed and tended, not worshiped.

My prayers go out to this family-- and my hope that we learn a little something about ourselves in their tragedy.
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by seaslew June 19, 2007 5:24 PM EDT
its a wilderness, and bears belong there, not people. if people go they know the risks sad as this is. My thoguhts and prayers to all , no one expects this to happen on a camping trip.

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by mitywhity June 19, 2007 5:22 PM EDT
bogusbones -

Why don't you get your hiney back into the city and stop perpetuating the accursed urban sprawl yourself? Last time I checked we have armadillo and coyote here too in "our" dwelling place - right downtown. The wildlife are migrating towards us and not the other way around.
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by mitywhity June 19, 2007 5:19 PM EDT
Celtic_Lady

Last but not least - get a grip! This is OUR world, but then if your really believed it you wouldn't impose yourself on it would just let yourself die like you believe ALL "other" humans should do. You wiccan, pagan, vegan whatevers are just warped and totally incapable of survival on this planet without someone else taking care of you. Idiots!
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by mitywhity June 19, 2007 5:15 PM EDT
bogusbones-

You too! Why do you self-righteous "we love nature more than anyone else" types always show disdain for humans and such misplaced love and value to wild and dangerous beasts? Also, why do you have a slave? ("YOUR" dog.) Get your priorities straight or shut up - take your pick.
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by mitywhity June 19, 2007 5:12 PM EDT
ecuadoriana-

You are the exact type of person who is a dead weight around the neck of this country! If we are all "invaders" into the wildlife refuge you allege the whole world to be, then why don't you just go drown yourself in the sea over your guilt!
You and your kind would never be here if not decendants from meat-eating survivalist pioneers or desperate immigrants who ate the rats from ships they travelled on to get to this country. You make me puke - go eat your organic cucumber sandwich of organic self-ground wheatbread and choke on it! Thoughtless puke! An 11-year old boy was slain by your "pal"... the bear.
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by ecuadoriana June 19, 2007 4:51 PM EDT
"...probably was the same one who had been harassing other campers..."

Bears don't "harass". People harass.

People who harass, stalk, attack & kill get the benefit of a fair trial before the execution (if there even is one) & the movements of humans are intentional- often deadly so.

The bear, on the other hand, was looking for food & to reclaim some of its former real estate which had been taken away under a human imposed emminent domain (translation: take at will).

If the bears, & other animals, are to suffer harsher punishments for lesser crimes than committed by humans, then bears deserve the benefit of fair trial & representation.

If I drug a kid out of a tent & killed him, I'd bounce around the legal system for years before it even went to trial. Then if I were to be found guilty, despite my bogus insanity plea (as suggested by my lawyer to help lessen the severity of my punishment), I'd still be fed 3 meals a day, given a bed, shelter, medical care...- all paid for by the state.

It's convenient for humans to have their meals pre-murdered & wrapped in cellophane! Then they don't have to acknowledge that they are willing participants in the holocaust-like slaughter of the world's animals.

The bear's gotta hunt its own dinner so get off its buffet table!

Do I feel bad for the kid? Of course. But I don't fault the bear for LIVING in its own home. The family were uninvited guests.


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by rushlimpdrug June 19, 2007 4:42 PM EDT
"We're hoping that the Forest Service will do a better job protecting campers."
excuse me.
Apparently the Forest Service didn't do a good enough job for you. It is a very, very sad incident but please don't pass it off on the Forest Service. I am sure they feel bad enough.
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by celtic_lady-2009 June 19, 2007 3:51 PM EDT
It's the wild. It is no longer our world, it's theirs. What's left of their world at any rate. I heard signs were posted notifying campers of this bear being in the area tormenting other campers & yet they stayed there. I understand the pain of loss that this family must feel but get with the program. It's not Chicago, New Jersery or New York. It's the Wilderness. You take your life and the lives of those with you into your own hands when you step into that world. Mankind is destroying their habitat, decreasing their food supply and treading on what is not ours. So the bear is killed, not tranquilized and tested for diseases or even relocated,killed because it was doing what nature intended it to do to survive & yet we don't kill our own for killing other people or animals. What's wrong with this world?
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by bogusbones June 19, 2007 3:00 PM EDT
As we humans continue to venture into the habitats of wild animals, these encounters will, unfortunately continue.

My dog has been bitten twice by foxes, has chased racoons and nightly I hear the coyotes howling in the hills.

Urban sprawl and the desire to "get back to nature" will perpetuate these conflicts between man and animal.
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by rushlimpdrug June 19, 2007 2:15 PM EDT
Bears bad
people good
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