Comments on: Murder Charges Filed In Kansas Teen Death

26-Year-Old Man Faces First-Degree Murder And Kidnapping Charges One Day After Girl Was Found Dead

[vinepetal904]

' ... a strung out lazy ignorant naked profane soouthern black muslim communist kid of mexican citizenship with no lunch money ran through my back yard today pursued by a husky cop with a cult following of groupies carrying all the market share, tax money, armor, weapons, alcohol, and parades ... '

[karen091866]

to "whatithink"

An execution, within the criminal justice system, isn't a crime comparable to premeditated murder.
Furthermore, when I post on CBS' forum, or any other, I never really worry about anyone else labeling my thoughts/views as "wrong"---just like I'd never bother doing so to anyone else.

Common sense prevails on the financial aspect, though: food, clothing, shelter, medical care---it all costs money. It is "pretty likely" that someone serving a life sentence, (this man --if found guilty---or any other person is unlikely to be able to exist without incurring some type of expenses in order to sustain them.

Furthermore, I've never killed anyone, you weirdo--so I wouldn't know what it's like.
Swift service of justice is what I was referring to.

[whatithink-2009]

pixelslinger,

I agree.

[pixelslinger]

it's funny that the best argument people can come up with when discussing death penalty is about money. I didn't realize money, a man-made obsession, had taken the place of morality and ethics when discussing 'who should live and who should die'. Is it perhaps due to a complete lack of a moral compass itself that some people have to make arguments with elements they believe they understand (like money) as compared to having to confront that trying to judge who should live and who should die makes you no better than the murderer themself?

[whatithink-2009]

karen091866,

When you work with emotion instead of rationality, you are bound to make mistakes.

It might be easy for you to kill someone quickly...although, I question how that makes you different than him. I still wonder whether you'd feel the same way if it were you being wrongly accused of a crime.

You may not believe me and this might be the first time you are WRONG about something, but you are.

Just do a little bit of research, without the emotions, and you will find out that I am right.

[whatithink-2009]

Just one example:

"A study found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder..."

[vinepetal904]

' ... i intend not to reduce taxes, i intend to raise them: i'll raise them by a whopping one percent ... the catch is: i won't be giving excess funds to the get sick soon tax the world trail group folk, i'll be giving it to the minum wage get well soon feed the world trail group folk in the hopes that they will thwart the militaries, police, and other authorities by 'out canvassing' them ... if all goes well, we'll increase taxes to 100% and give it all to the bomb freaks ... '

[karen091866]

It definitely does NOT cost more to execute someone than to house them for life.

What an assinine remark. It hardly warrants rebuttal--but it's so stupid, I hope others follow suit.

If any of us were to die today, it would certainly "cost less than if we were to have expenses for years to come.

The average cost per inmate, per day in a Texas prison is $30. So--sorry--but executions are much cheaper than food,clothing, medical care (which can be $taggering in itself)---and Yep--I worked HEALTHCARE..for years...in a Texas prison---and KNOW the FACTS.

Kill him--and kill him quickly.

Mind-boggling how some people have limited ability to reason :)

[whatithink-2009]

It cost more for several reasons:

1) Death penalty trials are more expensive because of the risk of killing an innocent person (they last longer and there are more appeals).

-- the trials (above the standard trial costs), cost more than housing someone in a single cell for 40 years in prison.

-- the infrastructure needed to carry out an execution is very, very expensive.

These are just a few examples.

[deadjester1]

i read the cost of housing an inmate in general pop. is around 13,500 a year. thats alot of bread.

[deadjester1]

how do you figure- if you can explain it to im willing to listen. it just doesn't seem logical- an iv set up is in the 500 dollar range and i don't know the cost of the chemicals but i don't think they can be too much. i just don't understand where that "fact" is coming from. but as i said, if there's a logical explanation im game to learn something.

[whatithink-2009]

deadjester1,

It is MORE expensive to kill someone than it is to put them in prison for life. Fact.

[deadjester1]

its the last resort man. and no i don't think i should have to pay for someone to get three hots and a cot for the rest of his life- not my responsability.

[whatithink-2009]

deadjester1,

Keeping them in prison forever is not also removing them from the population?

[deadjester1]

you don't execute someone to prove that killing is wrong. its got nothing to do with proving anything at all. you execute someone to remove them, completely, from the population.

[whatithink-2009]

"this guy if proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt should be shot between the eyes or hung or better yet stoned to death in the town square."

- Even so, we have probably killed many innocent people (who were found guilty). So, I wonder what that makes us. I just don't think you can prove that murder is wrong by killing someone. Somehow giving a killer the dignity that they didn't give another is more Christ-like to me.

[tprortech]

This guy just looks sick. He needs to be castrated and set on fire for doing what he did. Let the prisoners who have children her age get ahold of him, they'll take care of it.

[deadjester1]

if they are able to convict then i say fry 'em up good. im not much a fan of my tax dollars keepin murders' alive. i will say though that execution isn't really justice per say or even revenge- it's simply a last ditch effort at removing a violently dangerous element from the population.

[kansas1946]

You know, when I heard they had found Kelsey's body, I just got so angry. We just had another girl in Kansas abucted, tortured, and murdered, not very long ago. I just went on a rant to my co-workers with daughters that we are not teaching our young women (or our young men) how to protect themselves. I told my daughters from a young age, if this scenario ever happens, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES LET HIM GET YOU IN THE CAR.
I don't care if he has a gun, a knife, or a bazooka. He does not want to kill you in the parking lot, he just wants to get you under his control and alone. Make your stand there. Fight, scream, fall on the ground, run, have a seizure, whatever it takes. Your chance of injury there is much less than when he gets you isolated. I think a self defense class should be manditory in every high-school and middle-school in the country. Parents, talk to your school board. Even if it is a two-day seminar, get it into your school. We don't teach our kids to be violent, but there are occasions that they need to be violent to save their own lives. Let's give these kids the training and permission to become a raging beasts if they are threatened. God, this makes me mad. A young girl just getting ready to start her life and some fiend destroys her dreams and the dreams her family had for her.

[Syndicate]

I'm not sure whos sicker: the guy that killed her or all of us for helping CBS, NBC and FOX profit from this.