Comments on: Bush: Iraqi, Afghan Wars "Our Destiny"

Says Outcome Of Wars Must Honor Sacrifice Of Fallen By Overcoming "Tyrants And Terrorists"

[waynabq]

Band all goods using Fox News as an advertising front. Fox was the media outlet that helped George Bush steal the election from Gore in 2000 and was the media outlet that promotes O'Rielly, Hannity and spread disinformation and lies to justify Bush and the Neocon invasion of Iraq.

Take note of the commercial sponsors and ban their goods. I can't think of a better way to fight back against Bush and Faux News.

[waynabq]

Do not use the terms "War on Terror" and "Iraq War", neither of these titles make any sense and only plays into the hands of Bush and his Neocon cronies. The "Iraq War" was won when Hussein was toppled and his military disbanded. Call it what it is the "Iraq Occupation".

The other term "War on Terror" is as meaningful or meaningless as the "War on Crime", its just a stupid slogan the Bush administration is using to justify wasting lives and taxpayer dollars fighting something that is faceless and unidentifiable. Its an excuse to keep the simple minded 28 percenters in line.

Any news media, printed or televised and anyone with a single brain cell in their noggin shouldn't be using these terms, its only perpetuating the Bush agenda.

[terrapin78]

The Bu$h War Of Choice is NOT OUR DESTINY.

It is Dumbya's destiny and the destiny of BIG OIL.

It is a TRAGEDY for the US.

[dlpracer]

But then,If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't be attacking Clinton for Kosovo and defending Bush for Operation Enduring Occupation.

Posted by realpatriot1 at 09:11 AM : May 29, 2007
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Find for me where I defended Bush about anything.

You and your ilk come out the same way when opposed. "If your not on my side, YOU are the enemy, and PRO-Bush."

I can tell by your rantings where YOU are. YOU don't know where I am.

Try again

[ezillyamused]

Invading Iraq was going after a neocon pipe dream that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11 OR WMD OR ANYTHING BESIDES OIL AND ISRAEL.
Posted by clestes:
I will agree with half of your statement. It was about oil and payback for daddy Bush gettin' his butt kicked the first go around, but not Israel. Bush and Posse couldn't care less about Israel unless it will ****-off Iran or Syria, which is right where we are headed next. I, for one, will always back Israel, but it had nothing to do with Iraq.

[bogusbones]

I'd rather not have the President and his band of neo-con advisors directing our national destiny. Their view of the world is quite different, and dangerous, than the rest of the world's view. If their vision of destiny is involving our troops in illegal wars and incursions into other country's internal issues, then go shape your destiny somewhere else.

I get so exasperated with these "leaders". Good for our soldiers, I support them, but the men that are determining their futures and jeopardizing their lives are sorely disillusioned regarding destiny.

[aaabee-2009]

Finally, Bush uses the word "destiny", a signal of the end of rational thought and the beginning of an imperical ego self-perpetuating its own importance.

"Men heap together the mistakes of their lives and create a monster they call destiny."
Author: John Oliver Hobbes

[EL_OBSERVER]

ALL THAT IS NEEDED FOR ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS TO EVAPORATE, IS FOR ALL OF US TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIVES AND MESSAGES OF OUR IN HOUSE COPY AND PASTE "ARTISTE", THE ONE AND ONLY RAGHEAD LARS!!!!!

[clestes-2009]

Our destiny?? who does he think he's fooling here?? The wars cannot even be considered the same. Invading Afganistan was going after Osama Bin Laden. Invading Iraq was going after a neocon pipe dream that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11 OR WMD OR ANYTHING BESIDES OIL AND ISRAEL.

The best way to honor the fallen dead to is get the rest of the military our of the war zone, so they don't join the fallen.

Christ, Bush does not have enough honor or courage to even mention the names of the dead. They wouldn't be dead if not for him.

He is a miserable example to show before the world as our leader.

[realpatriot1]

I tried to post under the article about the Republicans predicting troop cuts in September,but could not.

Apparently, the Republicans think it's our detiny to cut and run in the Fall, just in time for gearing up for re-election.

[forthepeopl1]

JULY 21 2007 IS WHEN AMERICANS WILL BE FREE AGAIN

EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THIS SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL MEDIA OUTLETS AND TELLING THEM THAT AMERICANS ARE READY TO TAKE WASHINGTON ON AND ITS NOT A FEW AMERICANS ITMILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WILL TAKE BACK THERE COUNTRY..

I AM WILLING TO GIVE MY BLOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHAT OUR FORFATHERS WANTED.

AM A VET AND AM READY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AMERICAN BOYCOT/COOP IF WE THE PEOPLE DONT DO THIS NOW WE WILL BE GIVENING UP ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT ALL OUR VET HAVE DIED FOR..

DAVID A BELANGER,VET US ARMY,[e-mail]

ok so wants to join in on this great american REVOLUTION


they cant kill millions of americans at once so if we charge them all at once we will win and take them out and hang them all..

just like in the old days of the west...hang them from the trees in front of the whitehouse and see how many start telling the truth about what they have done to all us americans..


if the american NOW dont stand up and start a NATIONAL REVOUTION ON THIS WASHINGTON BULL S/H/I/T/ THEN we as TRUE AMERICANS can say nothing!!!

its time to take all this *** and take our government back now..

they are the ones that started this and we will finnish it now..we the people will take our country back and everyone in washington can sit there and thinks we the people are ok with what they are doing..go ahead and let them think that we are comming to take them out

[realpatriot1]

dlpracer,

We wnet into Kosovo to protect the Albanians from the Serbs, we weren't the ones ethnically cleansing them.

But then,If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't be attacking Clinton for Kosovo and defending Bush for Operation Enduring Occupation.

[toldyouso21]

Drs. should tell patients or their survivors that when they perform the wrong surgery: "It was your destiny"

Criminals should tell victims that when they rob, beat, scam or before they kill them: "it was your destiny"

Bosses should tell people that before they fire them: "it was your destiny"

In fact, for every act, no matter how ludicrous or devastating (like a car accident) should be blamed on destiny.

"IT WAS YOUR DESTINY" IS THE NEW CATCH PHRASE FOR "******** HAPPENS".

[crater7]

lars008; Are you trying to make a point? If so what is it? Using quotes from former President's has nothing to do with this administrations failed and corrupt policies.

[vinepetal904]

it's always funny how tyrants like to storm in screaming 'get sick soon' and 'tax the world', and more funny how they are whisked away by nice people screaming 'get sick soon' and 'tax the world'

[bluestardad]

FOLLOW THE MONEY!

If you follow the money trail you will find that most of those elected officials who support the war in Iraq are under the influence of AIPAC.

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Here are a list of the Republican Senators up for Reelection in 08. Ask them how much AIPAC influences their vote on Iraq? Is their support for Israel more than their duty to the Americans living in their states?


Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

America is still the Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, the Statue of Liberty Stands in New York Harbor not in the Deserts of the Middle East!

[forthepeopl1]

JULY 21 2007 IS WHEN AMERICANS WILL BE FREE AGAIN

EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THIS SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL MEDIA OUTLETS AND TELLING THEM THAT AMERICANS ARE READY TO TAKE WASHINGTON ON AND ITS NOT A FEW AMERICANS ITMILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WILL TAKE BACK THERE COUNTRY..

I AM WILLING TO GIVE MY BLOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHAT OUR FORFATHERS WANTED.

AM A VET AND AM READY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AMERICAN BOYCOT/COOP IF WE THE PEOPLE DONT DO THIS NOW WE WILL BE GIVENING UP ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT ALL OUR VET HAVE DIED FOR..

DAVID A BELANGER,VET US ARMY,[e-mail]

ok so wants to join in on this great american REVOLUTION


they cant kill millions of americans at once so if we charge them all at once we will win and take them out and hang them all..

just like in the old days of the west...hang them from the trees in front of the whitehouse and see how many start telling the truth about what they have done to all us americans..


if the american NOW dont stand up and start a NATIONAL REVOUTION ON THIS WASHINGTON BULL S/H/I/T/ THEN we as TRUE AMERICANS can say nothing!!!

its time to take all this *** and take our government back now..

they are the ones that started this and we will finnish it now..we the people will take our country back and everyone in washington can sit there and thinks we the people are ok with what they are doing..go ahead and let them think that we are comming to take them out

[bigsk8fan]

"The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal warmonger. Theodore Roosevelt" Posted by lars008

This quote is taken out of today's context. There are absolutely no pacifist arguments out there today. All Americans agree the fight on terrorism was forced on us. And no problem in Afghanistan where there Taliban govt protected Al Qaeda terrorists who engineered the attack on 9/11. However, even with Republicans and conservatives, there is no fatual connection made to any act of terrorism aimed at the USA (either actual or planned) that involved the Iraq govt or any Iraqi citizens. Bush's war on Iraq is simply an illegal act of aggression. And fighting in Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terrorism. And arguments that this is illegal really have no conflict with Teddy Roosevelt at all.

[lars008-2009]

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

USA's PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
--John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

[lars008-2009]

The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. Theodore Roosevelt

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." (1891) Theodore Roosevelt%u2026..

It behooves every man to remember that the work of the critic is of altogether secondary importance, and that, in the end, progress is accomplished by the man who does things. Theodore Roosevelt

Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk; we must act big. Theodore Roosevelt

Great thoughts speak only to the thoughtful mind, but great actions speak to all mankind. Theodore Roosevelt

The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything. Theodore Roosevelt

The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal warmonger. Theodore Roosevelt

The reactionary is always willing to take a progressive attitude on any issue that is dead. Theodore Roosevelt