Comments on: NYC Adds WTC Dust Death To 9/11 List

For First Time Medical Examiner Adds Death From Toxic Dust To Victim Tally

[dlpracer]

- again this is hypothesis - but what isn't hypothesis is a scientific look at how the twin towers fell - they had to have help.

Posted by king77shaw at 03:07 PM : May 24, 2007
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Sorry Junior, you are artfully dodging my questions.

YOU are filling in the blanks from the rear view mirror. A first year architecture student can explain how and why the buildings came down like they did. There is NOTHING remarkable about this...BY ANY MEASURE.

Again, take me back to the planning stages.

If you think that the people listed could have pulled this off just to go to Iraq, and all the events "just" happened the way they did, then I'm not surprised you are getting sucked into Alex Jones' world. When Jones is pinned on the planning, he folds like a house of cards.

What you are NOT answering is: what would have been the consequences of the plan FAILING. That had to be part of the planning process. The collapse of the US government...now that would be worth the risk (sic).

If you analysis all the variables that needed to be executed flawlessly, on a mathematical basis, the odds of success would astronomical.

YOU are giving people much more credit than they deserve.

There again, it gives some people (you) a way of dealing of the randomness of life (and death).

If it makes you feel better, then you and your thoughts are good therapy.

If you care to look deeper, the simple answer is always the scariest.

Good luck.

[bareemperor]

Could this death be attributed to the White House 'editing' the EPA air quality report?

[king77shaw]

alright dlpracer - a hypothesis.

I do believe Bin Laden planned and executed the Twin Tower attacks. I also believe that intelligence sources (Mossad, CIA etc.) knew of the plan months in advance - much evidence supporting prior knowledge - this would have given ample time for the towers to be wired for demolition - the buildings coming down as opposed to just being hit it would serve several purposes: 1) the shock value of collapse would give greater support to the global, oil-based, neo-con agenda we're currently seeing in action - PNAC (a neo-con think tank which included Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Bill Krystol, J Bush, Cheney and Perle etc) were pushing for a new Pearl Harbor after Gulf war 1. These names became major players in the Bush admin 2) it wouldn't take "thousands", just several of the right people in the right place at the right time - Silverstein getting the WTC lease 7 weeks beforehand, Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker heading Securacom to oversee security at the WTC - Rumsfeld (started his own parallel intelligence service) and Cheney (took control of NORAD) bear weight on the CIA, Michael Chertoff as attorney general of NYC (detaining and releasing multiple Mossad agents on 9/11 who were acting suspiciously - celebrations, trace explosives hmmm?) 3)the twin towers were losing money, they were low-tech, outdated and loaded with asbestos.

- again this is hypothesis - but what isn't hypothesis is a scientific look at how the twin towers fell - they had to have help.

[lars008-2009]

DEMONIC-RATS LEAD The Chorus of Useful Idiots

Leftist Support of Islamist Terror

Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians, many of them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at Abu Ghraib prison wore a bag on his head. They cared nothing about the beheadings committed by the Islamo-savages or the execution of 12 Nepalese. David Horowitz gives an excellent discussion of who this "Left" really is. He calls them neo-communist, I call them Leftist-Liberals. I'm a classical Liberal myself and I feel it's time to remove this irrational element that has been allowed to poison our good name.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/list.htm
The Chorus of Useful Idiots
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/thornton.htm
Supporters of Muslim Terrorism on the un-Religious Left
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/index1.htm
Exposing Leftists' Radical Islam Connection
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/left_islam.htm
Definitions, Lies, and Losing Your Head
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/def_lies.htm
Shocking (Liberal) Silence
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/leftist_silence.htm
See no evil: Why the Left is blind to suffering
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/no_evil.htm
When is violent speech still free speech?
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/speech.htm

[lars008-2009]

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out 'Martyrdom' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???

if it is ok for fascist nazi islamic muslims to kill all non muslims everywhere.... is it ok for the non muslims to kill all fascist nazi islamic muslims???

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108

[dlpracer]

Now how about one more experiment Mr. king77shaw.

I assume that you either work or go to school or a combination of both. Maybe your unemployed.

Again, for the sake of this experiment, let's use work. Get five of your best friends and have meeting. Share with them that you are planning on blowing up your place of work. Give details...like stuff you can find on the internet.
Don't act mad, just determined. Ask one of them for help in staking out the building and looking for the placement of explosives.

After an hour's worth of planning, tell them that you change your mind and that this won't work anyways. Then break up the meeting.

How long do you think it will take before YOU get a visit from your boss or the police?

That is just 5 people.

According to your theory TENS OF THOUSANDS would have to be complicit in the event.

Sorry. Game over.

[lars008-2009]

there is no peace with fascist nazi islam%u2026.. there never has been in it%u2019s 1400 year existence%u2026

dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone....

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses.....

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
muslim justifies slavery and piracy%u2026
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[mercyme884]

GREAT BALLS OF FIRE!!!!!! Don't you weirdos ever give it a rest.Nothing you say or nothing that you do or prove is going to change anything. Fact#1 The buildings were crashed into by jets being operated by terrorist. Not one plane but two.Fact#2 There were 2500 People Killed and many more lives ruined.Fact#3 All your theories don't amount to a hill of beans because they can't change the facts.Get a life . Go do something that will make a difference, work and dwell on things that you can change.Do something good for the country instead of all this junk. Trying to tear it apart.

[dlpracer]

cmon dlpracer - discuss the facts at least .. answer my questions - don't just send me to some website ... that's no fun .. ?

Posted by king77shaw at 01:51 PM : May 24, 2007
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Here is the end of your argument.

I would like you, or any other "believer" to take me to a point in time BEFORE the event- 9-11-01.

Please give details as to the plan, not the people, but the plan to commit the greatest crime of ALL times.

Let's start with the WTC hit. The date, for the sake of this discussion is ONE year before. You and I are planning the event with 10 other planners...got it so far?

Now walk me through the planning stages of HOW you are going to fly two airplanes into the WTC towers AFTER months of rigging them with explosives, and do all of this under the nose of hundreds of thousands of people undetected.

Now remember, we are in the planning stage. YOU cannot play this game knowing what you know NOW. You have to plan this, obviously using thousands of participants, being skillful enough to remain undetected for over a year and then pull it off in front of millions of witnesses.

Now tell me truthfully, looking at this from the planning stage, HOW MANY VARIABLES WOULD YOU HAVE TO COVER TO PULL THIS OFF UNDETECTED?

I won't hold my breath.

[lars008-2009]

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