Comments on: Gunman Kills Hostage, Self At NASA

One Wounded As Hostage Drama Ends At Johnson Space Center In Houston

[gramto7]

"I do believe, however, that more gun control is NOT the answer. Arresting, convicting, and imprisoning criminals is the answer." Posted by gramto11
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"It's a proven fact that punishment does NOT deter crime. It only deters the criminals who are incarcerated--until they get out." posted by down-ndirty
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It is that "until they get out" part that bothers me. Most of them get out long before they are supposed to, and are not given long sentences or are not given the appropriate death sentence to start with. These violent offenders are the ones who should under no circumstances be let out early. Instead, people who have one marijuana joint are being imprisoned for extended periods, and the violent ones are let out to make room for them.

[gunownerdan]

NRA: The Largest Civil-Rights Group Ever!

"The NRA is committed to constitutional rights. While most people think of us as focused on firearms, we are rather more focused on freedom. Yes, we concentrate on the Second Amendment, but the Second Amendment is about liberty. It's an insurance policy for all of your constitutional rights. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to make sure that you have the ability to protect your life, liberty and property, and those of your loved ones, against any who would try to take them from you. That includes your freedom to speak, worship, protest and vote. It includes the things you hold most dear."
Sandy Froman, NRA President
http://www.nra.org
http://www.nraila.org

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press."
- Thomas Jefferson

[kindrox]

RandalDS, you said

How much good will your shotgun or my guns be against mortar shells or bombing runs?

Personally I don't have a beef with out goverment, but I do have to point that you are dumb. Poor Iraqies with basic weapons are handing us our butts right now with the use of simple guns, dispite our using the most advanced weapons on the face of the planet.

[butch461-2009]

Criminals do not use legal weapons that can be traced back to them,so tighter laws won't help.The VA and NASA guys are mental cases,that slipped passed Doctors,family and everyone else,which is sad for everyone,and I asure you they,did and anyone in the future will get their guns when they want them without any trouble and no laws will stop them.

[fascistusa]

All you need to know about Modern Fascist America and our Future can be summed up with 3 movies:

Falling Down (1993)

Fight Club (1999)

and

V For Vendetta (2006)

We are in for one hell of a bloody REVOLUTION.

Thank GOD.

[seezero]

After seeing this story and the other one involving the astronaut/stalker, I fell the NASA program should be terminated. Now some people may accuse me of breaking one or more rules of logic but I still think I'm right. I think the money spent on NASA should be spent on something more worthwhile instead.

[down-ndirty]

"I do believe, however, that more gun control is NOT the answer. Arresting, convicting, and imprisoning criminals is the answer." Posted by gramto11
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It's a proven fact that punishment does NOT deter crime. It only deters the criminals who are incarcerated--until they get out.

It is also a fact that common criminals do NOT like to mess with civilians who own guns. Criminals have a tendency to avoid occupied premises out of fear the occupants may have a weapon. Far more criminals are killed in self defense by civilians than in the line of duty by police.

See my previous posts and check out the journal link I posted at 12:50 this AM.

[down-ndirty]

"...but even more dangerous to the American people. They are so far to the right that fascism is just around the corner and I want to be armed when they turn that corner, because I and others need to be ready to stop them."
Posted by RandalDS at 01:31 AM : Apr 21, 2007

That's pretty dammn scary, isn't it. Major disasters are my main concern. Look what happened in New Orleans--lot's of looting. We have lots of earthquakes, and if we ever had a major hit, the looters would be out in force.

I have some old antique guns, but I also have some that will hurt. My Dad's 30-30 carbine; not much good for hunting but good for protection at 300-yards or less. A semi-automatic MAK-90 (sporterized AK-47) with two (legal) 30-round clips. A couple 9mm Barettas for home protection.

In spite of owning semi-automatics, I question the necessity of anyone owning them. But, they are legal and I will keep them until absolutely forced to turn them in. At my age I don't think I'll have to worry about that.

[gramto7]

I am a 51-year-old grandma who has in times past had to use a gun in defense of my home. (Thankfully I no longer live in the same area, and no longer feel the need to continually be armed to the teeth.)

My weapon is now taken apart and hidden in the attic, as I have two little grandsons who just love to find out how things work. My attic is not one easily accessible. It requires carrying a ladder into my bedroom, which neither of them is big enough to do.

In spite of the above, I detest the NRA. Their attitudes are the among the most selfish of any in America, just like good ol' Duhbya. They will denigrate and harass anyone who does not agree totally with everything they say. I do not believe for one minute that anyone needs to have fully automatic assault rifles or fully automatic any type of gun, but if NRA had their way they would be allowed even those.

I do believe, however, that more gun control is NOT the answer. Arresting, convicting, and imprisoning criminals is the answer. If the crime is heinous enough, then the death penalty should be invoked, without having to wait 30 or more years. Granted the evidence needs to be absolute, as in DNA, but then the punishment needs to be swift.

[down-ndirty]

"You can point to the odd story of the clerk that shoots the armed robber or the victim turned champion for shooting their assailant, but it's a lot easier for me to point to the Department of Justice Fact Sheet that shows over 30,000 gun-related homicides and 400,000+ gun-related crimes committed in this country EACH YEAR." Posted by pixelslinger at 11:44 PM : Apr 20, 2007
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What's your source, pixelslinger?

Based on the Bureau of Justice Statistics, your numbers are grossly inflated.

The TOTAL homicide rate in 2004 was 5.5 per 100,000 population. That's death by guns, knives, baseball bats, strangulations, etc.

Doing the math results in less than 16,582 total deaths by homicide in 2004.

My source is the Bureau of Justice Statistics at
www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/totalstab.htm

Also read my other posts below, all based on reputable sources.

What's your source, pixelslinger?