Comments on: Northeast Slammed By Rare April Storm

Hundreds Of Flights Canceled As High Winds, Heavy Rains, Snow Slam Mid-Atlantic States, New England

[hawksprings]

OK jimfinster, I played your game. But before you think you have proved human-caused global warming beyond all shadow of doubt, (which you haven't) answer some of my questions:

What percentage of the earth's atmosphere is CO2?

(By the way, I hate the stupid delay thing CBS has built in to this. We could be done by now...)

[erasmus6]

Now, everybody go back to rheola's posting for HawkSprings at 10:21.
It is RIGHT ON!

[hawksprings]

erasmus, central Florida did indeed get snow earlier this year, but it wasn't the first time. It wasn't even the second time. It happens occasionally, it's just rare.

And tornadoes can happen ANYWHERE on the planet.

[jimfinster]

So, in summary:

The earth is warming.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
CO2 levels are increasing due to the use of fossil fuels by humans.

Therefore, global warming is caused by man?
Looks to me like this is NOT a natural cause.

[hawksprings]

Human activity is probably part of it, but we've also been told that animals put out more CO2 than all of our vehicles and factories, and PETA says if we're serious about reducing global warming we all need to become vegetarians.
So I don't know if I would agree that the increase is entirely from human activity.

[rheola-2009]

Jimfinster

These flatearthers are not to keen on admitting the bleeding obvious are they.
Of course now we shall blame the unavailability of instrumentation in the past, what next ??????

[erasmus6]

HawkSprings

I actually do not remember specifically where it was. I think one of the places was California and another could have been somewhere in Florida or something. (snow) And there have been other places, I just don't remember where. Same for the tornadoes. I remember hearing about the events but I couldn't say for sure exactly where they took place. I know that here Alberta also has had a tornadoe which is supposed to be impossible.

[jimfinster]

Would you agree that the additional CO2 is the result of human activity, ie fossil fuel use?

[hawksprings]

According to scientists who are measuring today's concentrations with modern technology against a time when they weren't alive and we had comparatively primitive technology, yes.

[jimfinster]

Good.

Has atmospheric CO2 increased in the past 150 years?

[hawksprings]

Yes, I can accept that as a fact.

[jimfinster]

HawkSprings:

So you accept that as fact? yes/no

[hawksprings]

jimfinster, I thought I did. We are being told that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

[jimfinster]

HawkSprings:

But you did not answer the question.

[hawksprings]

jimfinster, that's what we're being sold, I mean, told, isn't it?

[hawksprings]

ok erasmus, name ONE place that they reported that this is the FIRST time they got snow or the FIRST time they had a tornado?

Cheyenne, where I live, was NEVER supposed to have tornadoes do to our altitude and proximity to the Rockies, but in 1979 we had one that killed a couple people.

Was that from human-caused global warming???

[jimfinster]

HawkSprings:

Humor me, then I will answer any question.


Is CO2 a greenhouse gases? That is, does the presence of CO2 cause the earth to retain more radiant heat than if it were not there?

[erasmus6]

I am not just coming to that conclusion on my own. There are many, many times when I will be watching the news and THEY will state that "this is the first time _____ has gotten snow" or that _____ has had a tornado etc. Believe it or not, my eyes and ears are attached to my brain.

[hawksprings]

Yes, I think it's natural.

Tell me, how much of our atmosphere is CO2?

[jimfinster]

HawkSprings:

So, you are saying that the current warming trend is natural? Not caused by man? Not CO2?