Comments on: Heartbreaking Mystery In California

DNA Tests Say 3 Babies Abandoned Since 2005 Almost Certainly Have Same Mom

[madisongirl-2009]

To: MAINEMADE & all other liberals

I am a woman who is naturally pro-life, but a question for you:

What if the baby that is being killed is also female?? What about her rights to her body, hmmmmm??


PS....

I was adopted, and I am very thankful that my birth mother was pro-life.

So to MAINEMADE & all other liberals, this May 13th (mother's day), please thank your mother for being pro-life, or else you wouldn't be reading this post.

[toldyouso21]

Am I not my brother's keeper...?"
Posted by cjhr43 at 02:15 PM : Mar 29, 2007


Cain asked the very same question. Paul (who was a reformed Saducee and brought many of his learned behavior and teachings to the Corinthians) seemed to imply so...but Paul was still, (saved or not) just a man, and like all men prone to add his 2 cents to Jesus's message. On the other hand, Jesus said "Let your light so shine that men might see your good works" (not cram it down their throats) incidently, Christians know that what is at stake is eternal life and what we have here is a testing ground and very temporary.

God NEVER forces anyone to serve him even though he knows more than 70 to 80 years is at stake. Instead even with such stakes, he says "CHOOSE you this day, whom ye shall serve for you cannot serve both God and mammon (riches). Imagine that, God is pro choice when the soul and eternal life is at stake, but many of his followers are so hung up on the 70 to 90 years on earth--they want to dictate a mandate. Who would've thunk it?

[photosbyshan]

toldyouso21

So, according to your philosophy, if someone is going around killing people, it should be of no concern to me....Interesting.

[toldyouso21]

THINK THAT 2.5 MILLION IS AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE... I would love to have a dollar for everyone of them... many of the welfare recipients are here in NY and we are supporting them... can they also be considered "parasites"? -- our taxes are increasing to the point that those paying for the welfare are leaving the state.
Posted by cjhr43 at 02:11 PM : Mar 29, 2007


some may consider them social parasites, unfortunately, they are citizens and the welfare roles were around 23 million in the early 1980s. 2.5 million is not even 1% of the population. That is pretty good. Forget about the few dollars they get, I wish I had a nickel for every dollar spent on illegally invading another country--but that ain't happening.

[star2510]

oh, yeah, Madisongirl... what makes you think our moms wanted to abort us? I thank her once a week for being my mom....

[cjhr43]

"Am I not my brother's keeper...?"

[toldyouso21]

"I will never understand how people can defend abortion..."Posted by Photosbyshan at 11:35 AM : Mar 29, 2007


you don't need to understand why people do anything with their own bodies and the issue that resides in THEIR bodies from THEIR private acts. What you DO need to understand is why YOU do or don't have abortions and handle and take care of your own house.

God never told Christians to mandate or try to handle the morality of the world--he tells them to take care of and handle their OWN business. "every man is judged according to his knowledge and works" NOT according to YOUR knowledge and works. Know the limits of your morality and live YOUR life accordingly, God will take care of everyone else---he did not die and make ny human or group a god proxy. Take care of ourselves and leave the rest to God, he really CAN take care of it without help and it is really an A and B sort of relationship---C your way clear to get your own self right and D-light in that F you want to be helpful, lead by example not by manipulation, coercion, or trying to get government to mandate your version of society.

[cjhr43]

I THINK THAT 2.5 MILLION IS AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE... I would love to have a dollar for everyone of them... many of the welfare recipients are here in NY and we are supporting them... can they also be considered "parasites"? -- our taxes are increasing to the point that those paying for the welfare are leaving the state.

[star2510]

amen to jennamarie620 : Madisongirl knows nothing else to say? Happy your happy gal, good for you and your 'mom'. What I am saying is there are enought kids to adopt out there without bringing more unwanted children into the world. If it is safe to do so, things should be taken care early on, not wait 9 months to kill the child (or try to)

[toldyouso21]

The real story is that the wrong people are practicing birth control. The responsible tax payers... educated part of society ... do not rely on another baby to increase their welfare checks at everyone else's expense. The "temporary income fix for unemployed workers" has turned into a way of life for too many people.
Posted by cjhr43 at 11:47 AM : Mar 29, 2007


give it a rest. There are less than 2.5 million people on Welfare in the US that leaves the rest (over 298 million) to have or not have babies. Some choose to use bc, some (many devout Roman Catholics) do not believe in bc (especially RC Hispanics) of course this begs the question, if they don't believe in contraception or abortion, why are they practicing the sin of fornication?

[toldyouso21]

What if the baby that is being killed is also female?? What about her rights to her body, hmmmmm?? Posted by madisongirl at 12:55 PM : Mar 29, 2007

Rights are arbitrary mandates a state accords its citizens. Until a person can exist outside of the mother with the aid of medicine or on their own,they are not yet citizens and have no rights. If you wish to debate this point, consider that each female is born with 200K eggs all potential citizens. If on the pill, women routinely kill fertilized eggs each cycle by preventing implantation. Conversely, if we state all unborn zygotes are citizens, then they must be taxed and counted in the census accordingly.

since there is no way of knowing if a woman is pregnant unless we test every child bearing woman each month, this is a moot point. As an integral part of a woman's body, relying on her oxygen and nourishment to survive technically a fetus, baby, child, etc is a parasite until it is born. Whether it is a symbiotic relationship or not depends on how the baby affects the mother.

You may not like that description but based on a parasite being an organism that lives off a host and relies on them for sustenance for a period and can adversely affect the host's health,a baby in utero is a parasite. No rights for parasites until they see the light of day, can breathe on their own and intake their own food--when they are actual physical beings existing on their own--then they are citizens and have all the rights accorded thereof.

[jane02--2008]

Why won't they make sterilization or "tube tying" free for these kind of women who do this kind of barbaric act.

[yoopermom]

We are so busy attacking others for their beliefs that we fail to realize that we actually feel the same way in this case. Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, it doesn%u2019t matter, you could argue either point by this story. If she would have aborted these babies, then they would not have had to suffer, but because they were not aborted, one froze to death. Either way it can be considered murder. The surviving children are still wards of the court. Why is that? Are they saying no one wants to adopt these babies? Are they going to live their life in foster care, never feeling that they belong anywhere in this society? If that%u2019s the case, they could end up as messed up as their biological mother.

[jennmarie620]

madisongirl ~

Could you please stop posting the same comment over and over? You've made your point, and your birth mother must have loved you very much to make that choice for you - so you could have ever opportunity she couldn't provide for you. You are lucky, and I am happy for you. But posting the same comment over and over makes no point and does not help those two little children in California or that woman who could very well be fighting for her own life.

[jennmarie620]

madisongirl ~

Could you please stop posting the same comment over and over? You've made your point, and your birth mother must have loved you very much to make that choice for you - so you could have ever opportunity she couldn't provide for you. You are lucky, and I am happy for you. But posting the same comment over and over makes no point and does not help those two little children in California or that woman who could very well be fighting for her own life.

[madisongirl-2009]

To: MAINEMADE & all other liberals

I am a woman who is naturally pro-life, but a question for you:

What if the baby that is being killed is also female?? What about her rights to her body, hmmmmm??


PS....

I was adopted, and I am very thankful that my birth mother was pro-life.

So to MAINEMADE & all other liberals, this May 13th (mother's day), please thank your mother for being pro-life, or else you wouldn't be reading this post.

[michellem99-2009]

I am in my 50s.I am multi handcapped and legally blind. I was raised in foster homes.I am poor. I am scared OF pro-lifers. I read the story. The young lady must may so scared. It is not my place to tell a lady/woman to have/not to have an abortion as that's her business. No church and/or whoever can tell us what's right for us as women. I stepped upto the plate and did what was right for me and I have live with it. I will stand and support for the right for her to have an bortion. I think babies are cute but women should not be forced to bear children that she can't care for. If that's the case and she want's her tubes fixed so she can't bear children then that should be done. Abortion is not birth control. Drs. refuse to do their part when a woman has made up her mind no children. It is not what the Dr, wants to hears he/she won't do the patent's wishes. The Dr. is tyed to his/her church system and base everything he/she do on that system. We have sep of church and state in the US of A. and Roe vs. Wade. I am just a layperson. I am talking from my life exp. here. It is not the humame thing to do dumb a helpless person and walk away. sandy777 said it best in her post and I need not repeat her words here. I feel the health,well being of the woman come first and the unborn is aborted to save her life. So be it. This is my say.

[madisongirl-2009]

To: MAINEMADE & all other liberals

I am a woman who is naturally pro-life, but a question for you:

What if the baby that is being killed is also female?? What about her rights to her body, hmmmmm??


PS....

I was adopted, and I am very thankful that my birth mother was pro-life.

So MAINEMADE & all other liberals, this May 13th (mother's day), please thank your mother for being pro-life, or else you wouldn't be reading this post.

[ajaxrose1]

This is so sad. That poor little baby. I'm glad the other two fared better. I agree with an earlier post that maybe it's not the birth mother abandoning the babies, but someone else who is holding her someplace against her will. It's just a thought. I guess, being a mother, I can't bear the thought of a mother doing this herself. I hope they figure it out sooner rather than later.

[jennmarie620]

ksrugger ~

Has it ever occured to you that perhaps this woman was an immigrant (legal or illegal doesn't matter at this point) looking for a better life and has been kept against her will by a man, or multiple men? And, that if this is the case, these men are using her for their own purposes and these pregnancies were not her choice? You, as well as all of us, know nothing of the facts of this woman's life or why she got pregnant three times in two years and abandoned all three children. Until then, your harsh comments come across as ignorant and hateful - just the reason that some women feel the need to take drastic measures sometimes in these situations.