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DNA Tests Say 3 Babies Abandoned Since 2005 Almost Certainly Have Same Mom

[star2510]

MADISONGIRL: if you don't have something smart to say, stay off the comment zone, I think your tounge may be as thick as your head since you can't come up with anything new to say.... I will not thank your MOM! You sound stupid.....

[rohink-2009]

Isn't it a greater sin to abandon a child than it is to use birth control? I for one wish the religous right would get over their hang ups with birth control if they really want to prevent abortions and abandoned babies.
Posted by redstripe12

What does the "religious rights" hang ups with birth control have to do with one woman giving birth to three children and not caring enough after going through labor and giving birth to see to it that those children were cared for? It's not the "religious rights" fault for all the abortions and abandoned babies. Last time I checked, abortion was legal. And as for people passing judgement on this woman, how can one not? We all make judgements every day of our lives.

[madisongirl-2009]

To: MAINEMADE & all other liberals

I am a woman who is naturally pro-life, but a question for you:

WHAT IF THE BABY THAT IS BEING KILLED IS ALSO FEMALE?? WHAT ABOUT HER RIGHTS TO HER BODY, hmmmmm??


PS....

I was adopted, and I am very thankful that my birth mother was pro-life.

So to MAINEMADE & all other liberals, this May 13th (mother's day), please thank your mother for being pro-life, or else you wouldn't be reading this post.

[redstripe12]

Isn't it a greater sin to abandon a child than it is to use birth control? I for one wish the religous right would get over their hang ups with birth control if they really want to prevent abortions and abandoned babies.

[jetlizhan]

madisongirl -

YOU GO GIRL!! I AGREE 1000%

[mainemade]

Yes I am a woman, and yes I have a daughter who happens to be a young adult. Yes I am Pro Choice! Being Pro-Choice is my right as a woman, and an American. Call me liberal if you want. Call me all the names you want. No body can change my opinions on what to do with my body. If my daughter got pregnant, I would be there to support her in any decision she might make. After all it would be HER choice!

It's just sad that one baby is dead, and two others are "wards of the state". I just hope they find the mother before more babies are left to die or suffer the foster care system of America.

[mainemade]

Yes I am a woman, and yes I have a daughter who happens to be a young adult. Yes I am Pro Choice! Being Pro-Choice is my right as a woman, and an American. Call me liberal if you want. Call me all the names you want. No body can change my opinions on what to do with my body. If my daughter got pregnant, I would be there to support her in any decision she might make. After all it would be HER choice!

It's just sad that one baby is dead, and two others are "wards of the state". I just hope they find the mother before more babies are left to die or suffer the foster care system of America.

[toldyouso21]

Perhaps that is what the United States needs to do to insure anonymity of the mother. I am sure it will help save a lot of unwanted infants.
Posted by sclaires at 02:56 PM : Mar 29, 2007


California already allows people to abandon babies at hospitals no questions asked. But in a small town, people cannot even go to the hospital for fear of being identified by someone they know and compounding the stigma of an unwanted pregnancy with the stigma of abandoning a baby. I still say, this child may be the result of incest from a young girl and is being aided and abetted by the parents who know the truth but dare not let anyone else find out--the chronological order of the births indicate she is impregnated as soon as she has a child. Either she likes a lot of ***, or...she may be subjected to it against her will.

[gunownerdan]

If abortion is made illegal, expect there to be many more abandoned babies.

[toldyouso21]

agree... I raised my children by example... You can only "show" others the right way. They need to make the right choices when an issue arises. "Posted by cjhr43 at 02:48 PM : Mar 29, 2007
Too true. We can show not only about love, but about acceptance and how wonderful a family can be, we can help to allow a person to understand the gravity of the choices they make and to understand that no matter what is said--what they may be growing inside IS a life from the first moment on. When they understand that, they can make their choices accordingly, but they should also know that with knowledge comes responsibility--they must reconcile what they do to themselves and that child with God--at that point, others should stand back and be there to offer support, understanding and love no matter which choice the person decided--by this way, more will pause and think before choosing a certain path--because they will marvel that even if they choose abortion, they are NOT judged or shown condemnation--because it never was about saving a child--it was about God's will being done and teaching the person God put in your life--God does sometimes allow terrible things to come to past, so that His will is made manifest and that each of those who love Him continue to grow in understanding and grace--and this is the light, that grows and grows and will draw others to God through Christians. Confrontation and condemnation inspire rebellion and Rebellion is the modus operandi of Satan.

[sclaires]

For the life of me I cannot understand why a mother would abandon a newborn infant in the manner in which these three infants were. There are ways that a mother can give up their newborn without any questions asked which is what this woman should have done. I have read where Italy has reinvented the medieval "foundling wheel" where unwanted newborns were left at convents. Now the foundlings are left in a high-tech version of the old wheel at hospitals where they are immediately given medical care. Perhaps that is what the United States needs to do to insure anonymity of the mother. I am sure it will help save a lot of unwanted infants.

[cjhr43]

I agree... I raised my children by example... You can only "show" others the right way. They need to make the right choices when an issue arises. "As the twig is bent so grows the tree"

[toldyouso21]

You inspire no one by force...coercion, manipulation or torture--you only delude yourself and justify a self-righteous stance.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 02:42 PM : Mar 29, 2007


Sorry, forgot to add: and Christians alienate others and tick God off when they presume they know better than even he does and decide they are arbiters of a world that he told them not to invest in or conform to.

"conform not to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind" God keeps telling men to reach for the next plane and they keep trying to make this their plane of existence including partaking of all the things of the world (like lots of money) that God says is of Satan. He warns to lay up stores in heaven and many Christians think they are to have it all here on earth, but if your life does not differ from that of the sinner--then why does God caution people to not be of this world or to try to lay up riches and stores here?

[star2510]

madsiongirl must have a peabrain for she can not speak of anything "I am woman hear me roar" speech. what is up with that?.... nothing more creative to say? you have a broken keyboard?

[sugarmice-2009]

I am glad that 2 of those babies lived. I am pro abortion - what a woman does with her body is her business and no one elses - NO one has the right to tell anyone what to do with their bodies -whether you are an individual, part of a group or the government. The first thing we need to to is teach our children about *** - unfortunately in this country it's a "bad" word - parents don't have the time and if you do you don't go into detail about the consequences. My grandmother told me that the 100% protection is not to indulge and if the temptation arises - hold an aspirin between with your knees. Women who are raped and get pregnant and want an abortion should do so - I wouldn't want to get raped and then raise a child and have to look at the poor kid daily knowing why they are here and have resentments towards it and to have to go through 9 months of unwantedness and then give it away - no thanks. This woman needs to be found and educated. Just like thousands of others out there. And it takes 2 to tangle so lets now always blame the woman - if men didn't pop her she wouldn't get pregnant. TOO many get pg just so they can stay on welfare - see it alot here in california - should be a law and an ENFORCED LAW - if you are on welfare - NO MORE kids and if you do have one NO MORE support from the government... plain and simple.

[cjhr43]

WELL SAID... if you cannot speak for your own rights then you have "no choice" but to submit to those that can... even if it means sacrificing your own life for their selfishness...

[toldyouso21]

(Luke 8:16) "No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a vessel or puts it under a bed, but sets it on a lampstand, that those who enter may see the light.
Posted by cjhr43 at 02:38 PM : Mar 29, 2007


the "lamp" refers to your own life as a living example and a beacon of hope and inspiration NOT to what you may force others to do: "Let not your good be evil spoken of".... "Let you light so shine that men might see your good works"

You inspire no one by force...coercion, manipulation or torture--you only delude yourself and justify a self-righteous stance.

[toldyouso21]

Here is a thought--never mandate wbat you can neither control or enforce. When does a child have rights? when it is on this earth not in someone else--until that point, the rights of the child bearer must supercede the child to be --why? Because the child cannot have more rights than the being it is using and if the being does not want to be used, the child must either be able to be taken and survive on its own or at the time the bearer does NOT want this issue/burden/child if the child cannot survive on its own--then the child loses. You cannot force a human being to be a sperm receptacle or a baby factory--the main reason this cannot be forced is that the actual established citizen can be pregnant at any time and can, unbeknownst to others, kill herself, the child or other wise harm it--either with the help of others or on her own and NO ONE could ever stop this. A law, would force some to have babies, but many othes might pursue other routes and put herself (as an established citizen--and therefore society) in jeopardy just to rid her body of something she does not want in it.

[cjhr43]

(Luke 8:16) "No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a vessel or puts it under a bed, but sets it on a lampstand, that those who enter may see the light.

[toldyouso21]

toldyouso21

So, according to your philosophy, if someone is going around killing people, it should be of no concern to me....Interesting.
Posted by photosbyshan at 02:18 PM : Mar 29, 2007

***Nope. According to my philosophy (which I have not yet shared with you) The needs and dictates of a society are mandated and expressed by laws for the perpetuation of society. If someone is going around killing people, they are harming other citizens and therefore are in breach of perpetuation of society. In short what you do to other viable human beings DOES matter, but what a human does to herself and her issue cannot be dictated because it is impossible to enforce. There are other ways to kill babies besides clinical abortions. Women drink drain cleaner or ****** with it, stick things up themselves, take herbs such as black cohosh or...the point is, the rules that apply to people (AS I STATED EARLIER)begin at the point they are viable and NOT dependent on the life of another person. Prior to that, they are not citizens so the rules differ. You wish to compare societal rules to rules for beings that are an integral part of another person --2 very different things.