Comments on: Tillman Family Slams Pentagon Probe

Calls Report On Death Of Pat Tillman "Unsatisfactory," Urges Congressional Investigation

[sstuff3]

God bless Pat Tillman and his family.

However, when did the Congress change from a Legislative Branch to a Judicial one?? It seems for the last 10+ years they have spent more time investigating and judging than legislating. It's time to put the powers back into their own branches and get on with the business of running our country instead of judicating everything!!!

[coffeehead-2009]

B.s. -

we create our own war - and appropriately too.
more islamophobia to the masses.....


Sides -- I wasn't the one who proclaimed ourselves the "great liberators" -- dropped pamphlets saying "come out to the streets of democracy" - and follwed up with MASS destruction. Tillman and many other military and civilians knew about "the lie" -
Prior to Mr. Bushes war for oil, the greatest terrorist threats to our country were from right wing radical groups HERE in the country - statistically verifiable.


War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

~General Smedley Butler

[coffeehead-2009]

well apparently the subliminal creation of dividing still sparks in some minds.

I see no "left/libreal/democrat" influence as far as "letting it lie".

Your book doesn't count - whatever putrid party you inflame. Obviously THAT is up to the Tillmans and which "star" they want plastered to his name. I'm betting on them NOT choosing the "let it lay poster boy image" - and apparently doing what their son would have wished - that "star" of justice.

[nyckate]

inventagod - it's not 'thoughtless' to say that its time the Tillman's accept what they haven't wanted to -- their son died in a 'friendly fire' incident during a fast and furious and sudden gun battle. It happens - it's always happened - its not a crime - it wasn't murder.

There should be congressional investigations - but not about the Tillman Friendly Fire death - there should be congressional investigations into the debacle Bush has made of Iraq and of Afghanistan. Under Bush's control Afghans have become the largest provider of the world's heroin - can't even begin to imagine how much weaponry that kind of cash crop buys for al queda.

[xsoldier2]

coffeehead, We are at war, have been for the last 15 years. It was declared by the Taliban.

[xsoldier2]

Everyone needs to get over it Stuff happens in war. He was a hero in my book and needs to be laid to rest. The more that is starred up the less he becomes, or is that what the liberals want?

[xsoldier2]

A Smart lady good for her the witch hunt should not be abided. Congress has already made up its mind and will not be fare.

[coffeehead-2009]

We aren't at WAR!!!

We are "liberating" - REMEMBER

[pghlady3]

we are at war. People die in war. Military and civilians. Mr Tillman knew he could die before he even signed up. Thank you Pat for your sacrafice.

[musty2u]

So who gets the movie rights?

[coffeehead-2009]

Pat Tillman had come to oppose the Iraq war by the time of his death. His family opposes both fronts of the war now. That includes his brother Kevin, who was assigned to the same Ranger unit with Pat at the time of Pat%u2019s death.

Pat Tillman was gifted in a way that precluded his exposure to the narratives of the left (as we are all insulated from those narratives); and he went to war. But while he was in Iraq, he concluded from his own experience, %u201CThis war is so f~cking illegal.%u201D

Pat, like 95 percent of the rest of us lesser beings in the heart of Empire, was not a fully-formed anti-imperialist. He was, however, extremely well read and a diligent student of history. He did not deserve to be used as a posthumous recruiting poster by Donald Rumsfeld%u2019s ministry

If Pat had survived, he would have been a powerful voice against the war.

The fact is, Pat Tillman%u2019s family has not rested in its struggle to hold the military to account for covering up how Pat Tillman died; and they have done so because they believe without exception that that is exactly what Pat would have wanted.


Truthdig -
actually an anti-LEFT rant by a friend of Tillmans. Regardless it is very obvious that Mr. Tillman was not "going along" with the screenplay and was not the ideal "poster boy" after all.

[darkfyreaol]

I don't know why the Army's letting the retired general off the hook, but if it were my family member, I'd be scaling the walls at the Pentagon in search of the truth.

Or maybe in the words of a former political figure, 'You can't handle the truth'. Maybe this incident was planned by those who killed him?

[jimibear]

This is another incident which typifies the dishonesty and incompetence with which this war has been run from day one.

Was Cheney on patrol with Tillman?

[nyckate]

It's time for the Tillman family to move on - war is brutal and unforgiving in its nature and 'friendly fire' is an unfortunate aspect of war - it's clear that nobody set out to murder Tillman and I've no doubt that the guy that killed him will spend the rest of his life hurting over it.

And yes the Pentagon covered up certain aspects of Tillman's death - they had a 'star' athlete who was probably a darned good recruiting poster - and with recruitment down and Bush Administration's ever-increasing unpopularity they needed a 'hero' - and Tillman was the very picture of a 'hero'. And he's still a hero - he was a brave American who after 9-11 sacrificed a great deal to join the forces and serve his country - and there is no greater sacrifice than his life.

I understand the family wants things to be different - and what they really want is their son back - not going to happen and now its time they grieved and stopped fighting over his tragic death.

[toldyouso21]

It is never a good idea for a "star" in civilian life to enter the military in a time of war and to not get a desk job. There will always be the suspiscion that the "friendly fire" may not have been accidental, but could have been the deliberate result of jealoussy and resentment of some against as young man who distinguished himself in both civilian and military life.

It may have just been an accident that was covered up (but why?) OR it may have been deliberate. After all, in the heat of a fire fight how hard is it to 'frag' someone and then say OOPs? This conjecture is made possible by the cover up of the military and it WAS a coverup. If it had not been, then after the army suspected friendly fire, they would have informed the family--not over a month later. Instead they had to learn about it from another source before the Military came forth.

Dishonest doings in the Bush Administration, in the DOJ, in the FBI, in FISA,in the Congress, in the military. Bush taints everything he presides over

[huskerarmy]

"Give it a rest."
When he gave up the bucks and glamour of the NFL to fight in Iraq, he was the darling of the right, a poster boy for obedient patriotism. Now that his family questions his death, he's of no use and they should just shut up and go away...

[coffeehead-2009]

One explanation -- well actually 2.

1. Users - like dad said they killed their poster boy.
2. Liars - this is the initial report.

U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Matthew Beevers said Saturday that Tillman was killed Thursday night in a firefight at about 7 p.m. on a road near Sperah, about 25 miles southwest of a U.S. base at Khost.

After coming under fire, Tillman%u2019s patrol got out of their vehicles and gave chase, moving toward the spot of the ambush. Beevers said the fighting was %u201Csustained%u201D and lasted 15-20 minutes

Beevers said Tillman was killed by enemy fire, but he had no information about what type of weapons were involved in the assault, or whether he died instantly.

An Afghan militiaman fighting alongside Tillman also was killed, and two other U.S. soldiers were wounded.

A local Afghan commander, Gen. Khial Bas, told The Associated Press that nine enemy fighters were killed in the confrontation.

Bas said six other enemy fighters were believed to have escaped. Beevers said he had no information about any enemy fighters killed.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4815441/

[musty2u]

Inventless, how foolishly wrong you are; I retired from the military. I've been there, lived it, seen it. Come back when you know what you are thinking.

[inventagod]

"So where is the beef? There are countless friendly fire incidents from other conflicts that have remained quiet and are unresolved by families. Give it a rest.
Posted by Musty2U at 08:39 AM : Mar 27, 2007"

Yet another thoughtless pre-teen with a computer heard from. If this had been YOUR brother, there might be a small bit of anguish and frustration in your heart and soul. Instead you spout your incredible wisdom on the internet, then go eat dinner with your family...

[fleshmonger1]

The hardest thing about having power is remembering that it doesn't make you any different than those you hold power over...