Comments on: Missing Boy Scout Found Alive

Rescue Dog Led Searchers To Boy Stranded 3 Days In N.C. Mountains

[robjk1-2009]

Be carful when accusing someone of molesting. I was falsely accused before, I've bever molested a child in my life, thank God. But I tickled my duaghter with my duaghter saying I'm going tot tell mommy, I said you better not. So we played that little game back and forth, but guess what happen. She repeated to my wife "daddy touched me down there and said don't tell mommy" She was only like 4 and unable to give clear details.

We got through by Gods grace. So just wait and see on situations that may sound suspicious.

[toldyouso21]

Part of the reason this world is the way it is today is because of how people always want to find the worst in a situation. Some kind of morbid turn on. Way too many sickos out there waiting to point the finger.

Posted by bjbbc2004 at 03:17 PM : Mar 20, 2007


and here most of us were thinking the world is in the state it is in, because people only care about themselves and fail to consider others and mistakenly think their way of thinking is the only way. Which of course leads to grown men and women molesting kids and thinking kids get out of it the same things they do and leads to countries invading and killing people in other countries over lies, but somehow convincing themselves that they are a wanted presence and saviours of the countries they devastate--but there ya go, its what happens when there is less thinking a simply this idea that if you close your own eyes---that the rest of us can not see you.

[toldyouso21]

postulate that toldyouso21you must have either be the recipient of molestation or a molestor. Not a runmor, just a postulation. How does that make you feel? Feel better because it's just a postulation

Posted by theeggman369 at 03:07 PM : Mar 20, 2007

I always consider the source. How do I feel? That your "Postulation " is not relevant. That as a mother of 5 and a person who always CMAs I have nothing to fear. THe fact is,t he child was left alone with an adult and there were no witnesses to what went on...we could postulate that everyone who protests this line of theoretical posits are all child molesters who want to absolve and plead their case--but that would be too broad a brush and equally irrelevant. More important than the person who points out a potential problem are those (also with no proof) who want to deny the possibility that a problem can even exist. I raised the possibility--and you defend? And what will you say if it comes out that the boy was molested? Ooops your bad? I hope others are a bit more assiduous in determining what occurred than you are. One must consider the possibility--I wonder why that bothers some of you--the possibility must NOT be considered? Interesting.

[bjbbc2004]

I am amazed by all of the email above. Why would anyone automatically assume that there was molestation involved. Kids are kids and they run off all the time. They are airheads. That is why they have parents to lead them. Maybe, just maybe, he was curious and wandered off or maybe he was acting out his favorite book that his father talked about in the article. Part of the reason this world is the way it is today is because of how people always want to find the worst in a situation. Some kind of morbid turn on. Way too many sickos out there waiting to point the finger.

[toldyouso21]

It is a known that approximately 75 to 85% of all child molesters seek jobs or extra curricular activities which keeps them in close proximity to children asnd that the parents NEVER suspected.

Epecially desirable are those type of interaction which will allow children to be left in the hands of the caregiver like overnite trips or campoing expeditions. Many, many adults can relay stories of seduction or molestation at the hands of scout leaders, coaches, pastors, etc. It is not rare, in fact, it is quite common. So much so, that the BSA and other groups have banned known *** from being leaders in the mistaken belief that those who molest young boys are homosexual. In truth, most men found to molest boys in such settings are "happily" married and often have children of their own. The predilection to want to have *** with children and to develope game plans to involve themself with large numbers in sports or other activities unfortunately goes hand in hand with the predilection of many in this country --to think that "happily married men (or women) with families" cannot sexually abuse a child. The truth is anyone can, and many do--but they could not do it sooo easily if it was not for the denial of many to even consider that in their church, school or scout troop, may lurk an opportunistic predator, and chances are very high (if one is lurking) that he or she is nice, fun and very, very married.

[stezzer]

Nice to read good news for a change. I'm very happy for his family, the relief must be incredible.

[theeggman369]

I postulate that toldyouso21you must have either be the recipient of molestation or a molestor. Not a runmor, just a postulation. How does that make you feel? Feel better because it's just a postulation? I also agree with dogsoul when he points out that too many good people are having thier lives ruined over just this sort of postulation. I think it is people just like you who will bring down good things like scouting, or even being an alter boy, things that at one time were considered good things to do or be, and are now tainted over other peoples postulations of what could of or what might have happened.

[jetlizhan]

Praise the Lord! just read he's been found. let all involved just be happy he's okay - question him in private later.

[toldyouso21]

I'm naturally suspicious, I have worked with many traumatized adults who were molested as children, so I will see those warning signs faster than many but...for those who wish to work with kids or in any other industry it is CYA. This means as when girls at schools or in airports or anywhere else must be alone with a male, they have back up and a witness. In another job, back up may be hard copy or letters or even taped messages. When one deals with the potential of abuse (in being falsely accused or being a victim) one simply performs CYA another way. Most police dept. have females frisk female offenders. Most schools require one on one meetings of adult males and female students to be supervised. and most people want witnesses to avoid even a hint of impropriety. The only people who don't are those who fail to CYA and those who have ulterior motives.

[agnim]

All is well that ends well.

The so-called adults responsible for people's children aren't worth a dime these days.

When these incompetent and careless adults are not sodomizing the children or otherwise abusing them, they are neglecting them.

[toldyouso21]

Frankly, I am surprised that so many object to the possibility of moletation in this incident? What do you really fear?

Because the modus operandi of a molester relies on adults refusing to consider ugly acts and the molester convincing the child not to tell. How well do those protesting on this board play their part? if the adult has nothing to hide, they will understand the need both for scrutiny and interviews--and so will the parents and the child--or...we can all just pretend that nothing untoward happened and "hope" if anything happened it was a one off event . MAYBE nothing happened--but maybe it did. If it did, it will only be one of hundreds of similar cases over the years-- and jut like in past generations--there will always be many who dare not even consider it. Molesters count on that very human condition of denial, especially from the adults--it is what allows them to perpetuate acts for years on the same victims and many others.

[toldyouso21]

There was no catching up to the troop, they were at the camp--he left the camp. But maybe you are right. Maybe, the child just wanted to hike alone and left after everyone returned from the hike he did not go on. Is it wrong to try to find out and to investigate other theories? I bet the police will.

as for unfair to the adult, please. I have counseled many sexual abuse victims and the common denominator most have is that the adults in their lives never knew (unless they were the perps) and that due to threats, or shame or guilt they felt they could not tell the adults. More than once, people felt that the adults did NOT want to know what happened and did NOT listen or pay close attention to signs.

One must consider all possibilities, even the unpleasant ones. and to that end, the child should be examined (ostensibly for stress and hypothermia) and the adult interviewed. After the many cases where sexual abuse IS discovered or later relayed after years of silence--it is surprising that some of you still play the fingers in your ears , while singing "la la la" game. The story must be investigated and I hope it will be.

[dogsoul]

"1. No adult should be left alone with a child without others around to witness what happnes--too many pedophiles have infiltrated boy's clubs, etc...Maybe something happened (like molestation) and the boy walked away in shock, grief and fear--just to get away from the assailant...The background of the adult left him should be throroughly scrutinized as well as the child being examined. Due to his decisions to walk away--he may be more of a secret keeper and not a "teller". If something happened, he may, out of fear, or shame be determined to keep it secret."

While I'm certainly in agreement that we need to be vigilant when it comes to the safety of our children against would-be predators... the amount of suspicion contained in the above post without any more evidence than a child walking off alone is why I will never, ever work with kids... it's a shame really, I'm a good guy - wife, kid on the way - good morals - would be a good role model I think - have thought about being a mentor, or a little league coach - but with people so quick to jump such heavy suspicions - I just can't take the risk... all it takes is some talk & your reputation is gone - and if the kid is coerced into making any false accusations, you're done - proof or no proof.

[dragonmouse-2009]

I just read this article too. I went and checked the PREVIOUS article. I'm very glad the kid was found. I really can't jump on a "molestation" charge and at this point I really don't see any reason for it at all. That's a very serious charge and a very unfair label to both the boy and the adult.

It could have been too that after a little while he changed his mind and "thought" he could catch up with his troop. Maybe he thought he saw somebody...Whoops...wrong trail... viola... LOST.

Animals and aliens too can be very tempting to go chase and from what I've learned they know their way around the woods much better than a kid. The kid was eating pringles. Those "adorable" little "chipmunks" seem to LOVE potato chips. I wouldn't doubt that one was drawn out in hopes of findng a quick snack.

[toldyouso21]

LOL. That is not a rumour, it is a postulation and a plausible one at that. Not a very nice one, and I hope it is unfounded, but it is in this day and age a very unfortunate and tragic scenario. When developing premises for the whys of any story---don't rule out the possible, just because it is ugly. As for the child, perhaps even worse than speculation on what may have caused him trauma and caused him to leave camp is the ostritch scenariom where adults don't want to know, make it a stigma and therefore make it impossible for him to ever tell.

Let's just hope it did not happen, but after what has continually been a problem for youth org and this country (ie., molestations of children in these groups) let's be adult enough and strong enough to consider and look into--ALL possibilities.

[toldyouso21]

I would have to agree.
Posted by leftwingnut at 02:25 PM : Mar 20, 2007

God help your children if things like you can reproduce...that; and /or--God help our children if they run into things like you.

[theeggman369]

Yes, I am just reading this for the first time today. I'm just saying that labeling this as a molestation case is wrong! And unless you have proof of that kind of action you should not not tell everybody that this is what you think may have happened. It is a hell of a label to apply to a 12 yr old boy, Especially if it never happened! Unless you did it, don't start rumors. Thats All I'm saying.

[toldyouso21]

Here's the link to the original story:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/18/ap/national/main2582253.shtml

[toldyouso21]

does it say he was left alone with an adult?

Posted by TheEggman369 at 02:17 PM : Mar 20, 2007


Are you only now reading this story? When it was first reported on the day it occurred, the articles stated the boy was left alone with an adult while everyone else went hiking, when they returned, the boy was gone. Later, the same day, it was reported that the boy had left after the group returned.

You may only have read this part, but some of us have been following this story for a few days--like...when it was first reported.

[dragonmouse-2009]

I'm a little confused about where all this Mormon and politic stuff came from??? None of that was in the article.

From what I can best tell it sounds like the kid was probably distracted by something (he's a kid...he could have seen an animal or something and curiousity got the best of him) maybe too...he was with a couple of other boys and he wanted to "beat" them to the end of the trail (uhhh...just for the record...kids do that all the time)so he THOUGHT he knew a shortcut and walked off the trail a little too far and got turned around (if anyone has been in the woods...you'll find that's not hard to do, trees look alike).

ADHD being part of the culprint. Nah...I think it's more just being a kid.

IF ADHD was part of the issue then perhaps it's because many ADHD patients "CAN" be known to be a bit more easily distracted...but overall... kids can be distracted even without having an ADHD diagnosis.

Bottom line is Thank God this child was found quickly and will recover nicely with a lot of extra hugs. I applaud the father for not pushing blame on anyone but instead just being thankful his son was found. BRAVO Dad!!!