Comments on: Christians Gather To Protest Iraq War

Prayer At National Cathedral And March On White House Kick Off Weekend Protest

[mrots60]

While I certainly agree with the protesters, unfortunately, it is futile. There is one statement by Bush that will actually deem true: Pulling out of Iraq will be up to the next President. So, get used to it people; we're gonna be over there for awhile......

[dirtydog55]

"Oh BTW; The machinegun(Gatling Gun) was invented by a northern doctor, named Gatling."
Posted by Klingon69

Oh BTW, Klingon, Dr. Richard J. Gatling was born in North Carolina and lived there for over 30 years before moving north. I guess that makes him a 'southerner' just as Bush is a northerner. Gatling invented the gun with the hope that it would end the bloodshed, but it was too heavy and not accepted by the Army Ordance Dept until after the war ended.

You should get your facts straght, else you weaken your already weak credibility.

[willyn3]

Sounds like the Christians are beginning to wake up to the Republicans rights theft of their moral standing- too late, it's already gone! This country has never had a more corrupt, dishonest and dangerous administration. The world is watching us like we watched the Soviets and we'll' soon be alone.

[david1737]

fredgrad2000
JAL477

No excuses! You're buying into Neo-Con-Artist rationalization.

[david1737]

fredgrad2000
JAL477

No excuses! You're buying into Neo-Con-Artist rationalization.

[david1737]

JAL477

It would seem from your posts that you don't understand the fundamental nature of our society. The rich get richer and Poor get poorer. When you got the power you tend to not do jail time.

[jal477]

Thanks Fred grad. That's all I'm trying to say.

[fredgrad2000]

Who cares about Halliburton? Old tired rhetoric from the same MoveOn.org crowd. Start coming up with some logical solutions to ANY of our nation's problems rather than just spewing conspiracy theories and half-truths. *** Cheney's deferred compensation pay-outs are far less than most ex-CEOs get, and he gets those even if Halliburton goes into bankruptcy, so their results have no bearing on his personal finances. Halliburton has never been proven to do anything of the Enron, Worldcom sort - so until they do and they can prove it was related to Cheney's decisions, those accounting investigations have no bearing on the VP. Come up with something constructive...

[jal477]

By the way, rsoxfan. I still like you even though I'm a Yankees fan. My father's a REDSOX fan if you can believe that. Makes for an interesting afternoon watching them play.

[jal477]

Rsoxfan,

You don't think folks at the top get stock options and severance pay? It's called kickbacks. Tons of CEOs get the same treatment. Like I said, is Cheney under investigation for committing a crime? If he is, I'm not aware of it. The fact is, those of you out there that think the Twin Towers was a plot by the U.S. government and that we went to Iraq for Halliburton stock are lunatics that do nothing for the conversation. Site me all the Wikepedia information you want. A lot of big companies do a lot of bad things, especially when they are as big as Halliburton. The fact remains that Halliburton does a lot of work throughout the world and particularly in the Middle East because they are capitalistic and are supposed to make the right operational moves for their business. That still doesn't mean that WE WENT TO WAR FOR HALLIBURTON. It still doesn't mean that Cheney, Bush, or anyone else in the administration went to war for Halliburton. In the end, wouldn't we have some type of hard evidence of this after so many years and wouldn't it be on the front page of every newspaper in America? As for the recent Haliburton move, like I said earlier, Halliburton still has a HQs in the U.S. and are still subject to subpoena. It's an operational move. They've been under the microscope for years now. Whether they did it 2 years ago, today, or a year from now, you'd still categorize their move in the same way. Any other reasons for their move is simply gossip.

[jal477]

Rsoxfan,

You don't think folks at the top get stock options and severance pay? It's called kickbacks. Tons of CEOs get the same treatment. Like I said, is Cheney under investigation for committing a crime? If he is, I'm not aware of it. The fact is, those of you out there that think the Twin Towers was a plot by the U.S. government and that we went to Iraq for Halliburton stock are lunatics that do nothing for the conversation. Site me all the Wikepedia information you want. A lot of big companies do a lot of bad things, especially when they are as big as Halliburton. The fact remains that Halliburton does a lot of work throughout the world and particularly in the Middle East because they are capitalistic and are supposed to make the right operational moves for their business. That still doesn't mean that WE WENT TO WAR FOR HALLIBURTON. It still doesn't mean that Cheney, Bush, or anyone else in the administration went to war for Halliburton. In the end, wouldn't we have some type of hard evidence of this after so many years and wouldn't it be on the front page of every newspaper in America? As for the recent Haliburton move, like I said earlier, Halliburton still has a HQs in the U.S. and are still subject to subpoena. It's an operational move. They've been under the microscope for years now. Whether they did it 2 years ago, today, or a year from now, you'd still categorize their move in the same way. Any other reasons for their move is simply gossip.

[down-ndirty]

"The windows of the executive mansion were dark, as the president was away for the weekend at Camp David in Maryland."

Even when the lights are on, there's nobody home, if you get my drift...

[rsoxfan1123]

JAL477-I guess the payments Cheney received and the $8 million in stock options doesn't "prove" a conflict of interest in a court of law, but any moron can clearly see what is happening.

[rsoxfan1123]

Halliburton-can you say "conflict of interest"?:
In recent years the company has become the center of several controversies involving the 2003 Iraq War and the company's ties to U.S. Vice President *** Cheney. Cheney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election campaign with a severance package worth $34 million. As of 2004, he had received $398,548 in deferred compensation from Halliburton while Vice President. Cheney also retains unexercised stock options at Halliburton, which have been valued at nearly $8 million

[jal477]

rsox fan,

Has Cheney been indicted or officially charged with any past activities with Haliburton? If he violated any such laws, why hasn't this happened? WHY ISN'T HE IN JAIL? Enough said. I'm tired of administration/Haliburton/Iraq conspiracy theories. The only naive and stupid one is you for believing them. In the end, Halliburton bid for the contract and was granted it. IF HALIBURTON IS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF ANY TRADE LAWS, THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE. Enough about conspiracy theories regarding Halliburton, Iraq, and the administration. Let's just win the war and get out.

[rsoxfan1123]

Where have these so called Christians been for the last 4 years.
Hyporits
Posted by jerryomara

At least they're trying, Jerry. There are a lot of people that feel strongly about this war that haven't been protesting outside the white house. have you been there recently?

[rsoxfan1123]

one thing this adminstration has proven remarkably good at is finding slippery ways out of prosecution. they learned from watching Nixon. saying "prove it" reminds me of the thug like challenges you hear from mob figures that think they're above the law. claiming that halliburton pulling out to dubai at this point is simply a coincidence is ridiculous. maybe they just wanted to enjoy the desert air. they should get enough of it between Iran and Dubai.

[rsoxfan1123]

and finally (hopefully you noticed how much of this happened WHILE cheney was CEO, and if you think there still aren't ties you are naive or stupid):

An audit of KBR by The Pentagon%u2019s Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA) found $108 million in "questioned costs" and, as of mid-March 2005, said they still had "major" unresolved issues with Halliburton

[jal477]

Rsoxfan,

Great, I can read Wikepedia too. Like I said, the fact as is there is no evidence that Cheney or Bush conspired to get Halliburton contracts. What are you not getting? As for Halliburton, the fact remains that they're a global business that works with over 100 countries. If they want to move operations somewhere else they have that right. Their HQs is still going to be in the U.S. and they'll still be subject to subpoena and investigation. Like I said, show me evidence that the administration started Iraq because of Halliburton. That's all I'm saying.

[rsoxfan1123]

More Halliburton:

In 2002, Judicial Watch, a public action law firm, filed suit on behalf of shareholders against Halliburton, its current and former directors, and its accounting firm, Arthur Andersen LLP and Arthur Andersen Worldwide, for alleged accounting irregularities, said to be profit inflation by accounting for cost overruns as revenue
In May 2003, Halliburton revealed in SEC filings that its KBR subsidiary had paid a Nigerian official $2.4 million in bribes in order to receive favorable tax treatment.
As of 2003, Halliburton was still operating in Iran. CNN, in a report entitled "US companies are operating in Iran despite sanctions," reported that a Halliburton spokesperson told the news agency that HPS helps Iran build oil rigs in the country's south