Comments on: General Won't Apologize For Gays Comment

Gen. Peter Pace Said Homosexuality Is "Immoral" And The Military Should Not Condone It

[scott4261]

That is not in the four gospels, anopinion1. The four gospels are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Those are the only books where quotes from Jesus are found.

[anopinion1]

Leviticus 15
i believe

maybe you don't understand the meaning of sodomy..
like i said a minute ago look up sodomy on wikipedia
it may explain a little.

[scott4261]

anopinion1,

I challenge you to find anywhere in the four gospels, which are the records' of Jesus' life, where the subject of homosexulity is mentioned. Paul addresses it, and you can find it in Leviticus in the Old Testiment and a couple of other places. That's it.

On the other hand, the Bible is full of verses of how we should treat our fellow human beings and the least among us. In fact, if you cut all of those verses out of the Bible, there would be hardly anything left!

[scott4261]

SCOTTY BOY FINALLY SHOWED UP
to bad no singinrick today
Posted by anopinion1 at 12:23 P
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Oh, but he will be and I am certain that he is praying for my soul. That's OK. I'm comfortable with who I am and I can deal with him.

And you, too, for that matter.

[anopinion1]

Jesus had PLENTY to say about that and he DID NOT address homosexulity at all.
Posted by scott4261 at 12:25 PM : Mar 14, 2007

umm yea he did
i can't remember what section of the bible but look up sodomy on wikipedia and it will tell you where in the bible it speaks of sodomy.

[scott4261]

US_Infidel,

Apology accepted.

[anopinion1]

US_Infidel

well said

a little over the top on the fudgepacking

but well said

[scott4261]

And this is an example of why I almost chose to stay away today. You people can espouse "Chrisitan morals" all you want, but if you choose to treat others with hatered and disrespect, that is NOT Christian behavior. And for the record, Jesus had PLENTY to say about that and he DID NOT address homosexulity at all.

[us_infidel]

Point is, let's treat each other with the dignity and respect that we each deserve as human beings.
Posted by scott4261 at 12:19 PM : Mar 14, 2007

So true. Maya Culpa. I calmed down and posted a more thoughtful rant. I will endeavor to be more mature in the future. My apologies to the blog.

[anopinion1]

SCOTTY BOY FINALLY SHOWED UP
to bad no singinrick today

[us_infidel]

No, we do not choose to be straight, it is predetermined through nature. It is not natural, and therefore not predetermined, that one is gay.
Posted by guysdigdirt at 12:08 PM

It's a defect of some kind......something in the chromosomes. I have a cousin that was ALWAYS girlie...even when we were small boys. Sure enough, he's gay.

But it's not natural. There is NOTHING natural about a man wanting to insert his johnson in to another man's Hershey Hwy. just b/c some animals do it doesn't make it ok....what the hell lame *** argument is that?

Some animals eat their young. Some animals kill their spouse after mating. ***!?!?!?!

As long as you keep it in the closet where it belongs, whatever you do is your business. But stop trying to tell me it's ok, and stop teaching my kids that it's ok. It isn't.

[scott4261]

US_Infidel,

please read the rules of engagement for this site before you post again. If you can't be civil in your disagreements, you shouldn't be here. Now I will admit that I have flown off the handle a couple of times, but I have expressed contrition. Point is, let's treat each other with the dignity and respect that we each deserve as human beings.

[us_infidel]

He doesn't have to apologize to a *** soul! He spoke his mind and if that offends some people then that's too *** bad! This is how the PC crowd attempts to control free speech.......OOoooooo, you can't say that....you might OFFEND somebody.

Too FVCKING BAD! You ****gots can go suck a *** and get over it.

[scott4261]

No, we do not choose to be straight, it is predetermined through nature. It is not natural, and therefore not predetermined, that one is gay.
Posted by guysdigdirt at 12:08 PM

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Well, that is your opinion, but the occurrence of homosexuality in other species of nature tells a different story.

And BTW, I can assure you that I did not CHOOSE to be gay and fought it until I was 23 years old. I am 45 now, and I absolutely certain that this is NOT a phase. I was not abused as a child; in fact I had a very normal Christian American upbringing. But by now, I no longer question my sexuality. It just something that is and it is a tiny part of who I am as a person. God has blessed me with a wonderful life and I wouldn't change a thing.

[guysdigdirt]

I thought I explained that in some detail in my post. Please read it again.

And BTW, if everyone makes a choice, WHEN did you choose to be straight?
Posted by scott4261

You did not do a thorough or accurate job of detailing a valid arguement. You tried but there was no validity there.

No, we do not choose to be straight, it is predetermined through nature. It is not natural, and therefore not predetermined, that one is gay.

[scott4261]

scott4261
If a bisexuals or pedophilles choose their sexual preference why do you think *** don't?

It seems like a convienient point of view. I do not think you cannot believe or say these things, but I disagree.

Posted by guysdigdirt at 11:53

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I thought I explained that in some detail in my post. Please read it again.

And BTW, if everyone makes a choice, WHEN did you choose to be straight?

[guysdigdirt]

csca0203 wrote;
making comments like that no matter what oyu believe is wrong or immoral... there is no need for hatred in our society, and that man needs to pay for those comments
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You can voice your opinion but he cannot? It is not hatred to say adultry and homse*ual se* is immoral. If you believe it to be untrue, that is your opinion. But he is free to have his own and express it when asked.

[scott4261]

Ive corrected the grammer in this post, and I think points are important enough to post again:

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I was going to stay away from this thread today, but I just wanted to see what the zealots were saying today. However I had to comment on a couple of posts here.

First, sexuality is innate. No one makes a choice as to whether they are straight or gay. Sexual attraction is something one realizes upon puberty or soon after. And I would contend that the ONLY people who truly make a choice about whether they are practicing g a y s or straights are those who are truly bisexual, and that is mainly due to society's pressures to be "normal" (whatever THAT is) and because of zealots like those found on these threads.

Now there has been an argument here that pedophiles do not choose to practice pedophilia, either. I don't buy that for a second. Pedophilia is about power and dominance over another human being. The children cannot control what is happening to them and the adults in these situations are truly in need of help because it is a dysfunctional pattern that has probably been a result of sexual abuse when they were children. So I would contend that homosexuality is a sexual ORIENTATION and pedophilia is a sickness. And for the record, more than 99% of those of us who are gay are not pedophiles and we find the practice abhorrent. The same is the case with 99% of straights, which explains why most pedophilia is proportionally heterosexual by nature.

[guysdigdirt]

Antony34

You are just plain wrong in every point you made here. If you honestly believe any of this, why even try and expain it to you?

scott4261
If a bisexuals or pedophilles choose their sexual preference why do you think *** don't?

It seems like a convienient point of view. I do not think you cannot believe or say these things, but I disagree.

[guysdigdirt]

There are some very strong opinions and some outright lies and misinterpritations here.

God does not hate any of us. He wants us all to return to live with him. Even those who do not currenlty believe in him. We are all his children. But just as my son will do something I do not want him to do and I will dislike that he did that thing, I will still love him. Why would God not do the same for us?

This man, Gen. Pace, he spoke his mind. He is entitled to do so just as we are all entitled to do.

He did not say homosexuality was any more immoral that adultery. But since the *** community cannot marry, correctly so, it is adultery, no? So let the *** community come up with thier own version of marriage. Do not call it marriage as that should always stay a union of one man and one woman. There is no need to change that. But create a new union between two men or two women or six men or whatever you want, then you can get your various rights you want to achieve thru a union like marriage.

But let's stop judging each other, you can judge an act withour judging the person. If we judge others here, at the "pearly gates" we will be judge in the same manner, and none of us want that.