Comments on: General Won't Apologize For Gays Comment

Gen. Peter Pace Said Homosexuality Is "Immoral" And The Military Should Not Condone It

[agnim]

"Me: - retired after 18 years in the military, both as an enlisted soldier and an officer.
- Combat veteran - Masters Degree - Attended Seminary - MENSA member - straight, white male

Posted by Zoroastor at 01:34 PM : Mar 14, 2007"

Zoroastor, you omitted one fundamental flay in your resume; you are alive! lOL
When, it's 'better to be dead than gay', or being f@g-apologist!

[zoroastor]

I'm wrong about any sin being equal in God's eyes?
Okay, let's test that theory.
Live your whole life without sinning, except telling one little white lie. Don't accept Christ. Die. What happens?
Live your whole life as a homosexual. Accept Christ. Still gay, but saved, and maybe not practicing homosexual intercourse (that's between God and the individual) Die. What happens?

[scott4261]

And this my be falling on deaf ears with you, Agnim, but I will tell you the same thing I said to US_Infidel, please read the rules of engagement for this site before you post again. If you can't be civil in your disagreements, you shouldn't be here. Now I will admit that I have flown off the handle a couple of times, but I have expressed contrition. Point is, let's treat each other with the dignity and respect that we each deserve as human beings.

[guysdigdirt]

Zoroastor wrote
Ever wonder why you guys are homophobic? (now you are all saying you are not, but I know you are. That is why you get so angry about this. If homosexuality did not scare you in some way, you wouldn't be so angry about it)
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You are not a psychologist are you, I could see if you were as you are full of ****, I can understand if you are not but that is cuz you wanna be.

So expound though on this, does a pedophille choose to be such. How can a bi choose when a gay does not?

[zoroastor]

Let's compare resumes shall we.

Me: - retired after 18 years in the military, both as an enlisted soldier and an officer.
- Combat veteran - Masters Degree - Attended Seminary - MENSA member - straight, white male

You - never served - armchair general - so angry your life must be miserable - College? Can't see evidense of it in your writing -

Please, do continue...

[guysdigdirt]

Zoroastor wrote
ANY sin is equal in God's eyes.

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You are wrong.

[agnim]

Posted by Zoroastor at 01:16 PM : Mar 14, 2007

Homosexuality is a societally worthless BEHAVIOR!

In addiction, filthy christian f@ggots have been sodomizing and traumatizing the children in their churches of child sodomy for generations.
And those unfortunate children grow up to spread the deviance in christian/western societies more so than in other societies!

For those two main reason, every alert and concerned citizens should follow this general and flush the f@ggot filth.

It is the f@ggots who ARE FEARFUL and should be fearful; because if you fail to remain in your closet until there is a cure, who can guarantee what might happen to any f@ggot? Who will vouch for the safety of f@ggots in the general society?

Zomorastor, you are an arse, and that no doubt comes about from you associating with too much filthy arse.

[zoroastor]

And Scott4261 makes an excellent point.
Ever wonder why you guys are homophobic? (now you are all saying you are not, but I know you are. That is why you get so angry about this. If homosexuality did not scare you in some way, you wouldn't be so angry about it)
Do you want to know why you are? Okay, I'll tell you. You are homophobic because, as you all insist, you believe that being g ay is a choice.
You believe it is a choice, because on some viable level, it IS a choice for YOU, and that scares and repulses you. Scott said it right, it is a choice made by true bi-sexuals - those who admit that they are bi, and those who are very very very afraid that they are.
That's you.

[zoroastor]

And Scott4261 makes an excellent point.
Ever wonder why you guys are homophobic? (now you are all saying you are not, but I know you are. That is why you get so angry about this. If homosexuality did not scare you in some way, you wouldn't be so angry about it)
Do you want to know why you are? Okay, I'll tell you. You are homophobic because, as you all insist, you believe that being g ay is a choice.
You believe it is a choice, because on some viable level, it IS a choice for YOU, and that scares and repulses you. Scott said it right, it is a choice made by true bi-sexuals - those who admit that they are bi, and those who are very very very afraid that they are.
That's you.

[scott4261]

What would the gay community do if there was a Straight Pride Parade, would the straight people have to appologize?
Posted by guysdigdirt at 01:07 PM
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Probably not, but there certainly are people in straight society I'm sure you don't want to deal with either.

Straights are the norm of a society and are not oppressed for the most part. These parades may be staged as a celebration, but they are also a form of protest. Personally, I'm to old and grey to deal with that mess.

[zoroastor]

Anopinion1,
"Debating" with you is like arguing with a 5 year old. I know. I've had 3. I say this with all respect, (as hard as that is), you really - I mean really - aren't very smart. It isn't your opinion that is so galling. It is your blind arrogance. It is obvious by your own words you know little about the Bible. You shouldn't use it in your arguments, or even comment about it when others do. Your logic is usually faulty and based soley on your emotional reaction - not any facts.
And yes, breaking any law - including j-walking - is a sin in the Christian church. And ANY sin is equal in God's eyes.
I personally would like to debate this issue in a purly secular manner (that means without religion - because I suspect your vocabulary is as limited as your intellect). However, singinrick actually has been here, and others of his ilk, and they bring it up. And if one is going to bring it up, one should at least be familiar with one's own faith.
FYI, the Christian church didn't "give up" the Old Testament, but they do believe that the old law was replaced with the coming and death of Christ, so that many of the old laws (not eating pork) no longer apply. You are thinking of the Jews who still practice it to the letter.
I'd love to debate you in person where your sharp wit would be even more evident.

[scott4261]

Wrong scott, Christian is acting and believing as Christ did, when he got mad, he let it out. he did not get mad often, tht we know of, but he did get mad and showed his anger. That is all that US_infidel did, and then he appoligized, just like you did. No?
Posted by guysdigdirt at 01:02 PM

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I'm not saying Jesus never got angry, but I know he would not use crude and disrespecful language. And I did accept US_Infidel's apology, BTW

[guysdigdirt]

scott4261,
But those buttless chaps wearing rainbow parade participants make it so difficult to accept the whoel group.

What would the gay community do if there was a Straight Pride Parade, would the straight people have to appologize?

[vancouverboo]

If we could only do what was natural we would have a strange life. I don't see any other natural animal down here going to the Mall to buy clothes to wear to work. I don't even see them wearing clothes to work. And I don't see any squirrels or black bears driving cars down the freeway, and I don't see and dogs or cats making monthly mortagage payments or homeowner insurance payments. Just how many of the things we do every day are natural?

[scott4261]

I find much in those parades distasteful too. But there are also participants who also look like ordinary people. But in a free society, we have to put up with some outrageous elements. I find those that carry a NAMBLA banner or who wear leather chaps with the butt torn out distasteful, disgusting and crude. But I could point out other forms of public protest I would find equally abhorrant.

The First Amendment allows the good bad and the ugly to be included in our speech, and as much as you or I don't like it, I'm glad we live in a country in which we are free to express our opinions.

[guysdigdirt]

And this is an example of why I almost chose to stay away today. You people can espouse "Chrisitan morals" all you want, but if you choose to treat others with hatered and disrespect, that is NOT Christian behavior. And for the record, Jesus had PLENTY to say about that and he DID NOT address homosexulity at all.
Posted by scott4261

Wrong scott, Christian is acting and believing as Christ did, when he got mad, he let it out. he did not get mad often, tht we know of, but he did get mad and showed his anger. That is all that US_infidel did, and then he appoligized, just like you did. No?

[guysdigdirt]

But it's not natural. There is NOTHING natural about a man wanting to insert his johnson in to another man's Hershey Hwy. just b/c some animals do it doesn't make it ok....what the hell lame *** argument is that?

Some animals eat their young. Some animals kill their spouse after mating. ***!?!?!?!

As long as you keep it in the closet where it belongs, whatever you do is your business. But stop trying to tell me it's ok, and stop teaching my kids that it's ok. It isn't.
Posted by US_Infidel

Gotta agree with this point, I can see the anger I feel sometimes at the way it is pushed down our throats in you comments and I guess you gotta let it out. Well put.

[anopinion1]

scott4261

I forgot some sects of christianity decided to ommit the old testament for some reason and then wrote their new testament to better suit their purposes my bad.

[vancouverboo]

He says it's immoral for military personnel to have adulterous relations with other military personnel, that that is as immoral as being gay.
Does God distinguish between military personnel and non-military personnel? What I'm getting at is why is it immoral to have adulterous relations with another military person but not with someone outside the military? Isn't that just as adulterous? Or does this guy know something we don't know?

[guysdigdirt]

scott4261,
I must appologize. I do not know for sure, but will have to agree with you if forced to voice an opinion, that it is not a choice one makes to be gay or not. I am not passing judgement on being gay, that is not may way or my place, but I cannot imagine anyone choosing to be gay in a society that seems so intollerant of them.

I would also assume that same society and treatment is the reason for the vulgar actions at the various "rainbow type" parades and functions. If someone is telling you your way of life is bad, you want to show that it is not bad and push it into the mainstream. I get that, I just wish it were done in a more tasteful manner.