Comments on: Vermont Towns Back Bush Impeachment

Voters Support Resolutions To Investigate Administration On Iraq Policy; Approve Withdrawal Of U.S. Troops

[david1737]

Agnim...good point, but Bush never lied about a Blow j o b.

1. LYING ABOUT IRAQI WEAPONS

2. DOCTORING INTELLIGENCE

3. WAGING AN ILLEGAL WAR IN IRAQ

AND WORSE OF ALL

4. CAUSING THE NEEDLESS LOST OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN
LIVES AND LIMBS!

5. There are more than ample grounds for impeachment!

It's just that, some mindless people in Congress just DON'T WANT TO DO THEIR JOBS!

And that is why the nation is in a mess: We have lost leaders who refuse to do their jobs, and do it intelligently and properly, from the president down.
Posted by Agnim at 11:38 AM : Mar 07, 2007

[scott4261]

BTW, do you know which conservative floated the idea that maybe it was time to abolish the Electoral College back in 2000 BEFORE the election and then never said a word about his idea after? It was none other than Oxycontin-addled Rush Limbaugh! Amusing, huh?

[scott4261]

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The closest we came to an anomaly on that scale was in 1992, when millionaire Ross Perot ran an Independent campaign with his own money and nearly captured the electoral votes from Maine and a couple of other states. He didn't garner any electoral votes in the end, but he came d a m n close! The other near anomaly was when Teddy Roosevelt, after having already served as the Republican president, ran on the progressive Bull Moose Party ticket in 1912. He didn't garner any electoral votes, either. But it is interesting to note that he ran against his hand picked Republican successor, William Howard Taft, and Democrat Woodrow Wilson, after an attempt to move the Republican party in a more progressive direction. The resulting split of the Republican vote denied Taft a second term and handed Wilson the first of two terms as president.

The Electoral College has outlived its usefulness. It was put in place so that the elite would not lose power in close elections (or for a power grab in close elections, as we found out in 2000). There is no reason why, in the 21st century, a man who wins an election (as Al Gore clearly did by 500,000 votes in 2000) should not be president.

Interestingly, a conservative made that argument to me prior the 2000 election, when the Republicans all thought the election was going to end with a popular vote for George W. Bush and an Electoral College victory for Gore. It's funny how the argument was turned on its head when the opposite happened!

[scott4261]

dcamp,

I posted this at the end of February, when all the buzz was about Al Gore's Oscar:

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I was reading the posts from forthepeaple, and I have to say that I'm one who would like a valid third party option. That is not to say that, in the end, I wouldn't vote Democratic, but at least I would like to know that a third party at least has a shot.

The only way to do this is to abolish the Electoral College. Until that happens, Americans will always be selecting "the lesser of two evils" because the "winner take all" Electoral College lends itself to a two party system.

[newsjeff-2009]

I would like to say that at least Vermont is shown that they are not afraid to stand up to the Bush/Cheney Administration. I would like to say that if anyone is bashing Vermont right now they need to remember: One Blue-voting states like Vermont have a much lower divorce rate than Bible-Belt,Red Republican voting Bush states!!. Second: The Bush Administration wants to cut funding to medicaid,medicare,Social Security,Nursing Home funding,Hospital Funding,veterans health care centers,etc., I would like to know of one state in the union that does not have a hospital or nursing home that would not be affected by the purposed funding cuts that the Bush Administration wants just to fight an endless Iraq War, that costs us more U.S. Troops lives every day and week. Remember that People!!

[beckestr]

We wouldn't deal with this if people didn't voted for him the 2nd time in 04. Gotta say he's the worst president I know of.

[scott4261]

Yes to Impeachment of President and Vice President! But remember, we wouldn't have these buffoons in charge if it weren't for the stupid Electoral College. Let's clean up the mess and then, correct the problem, by eliminating the Electoral College!
Posted by dcamp2909 at 12:16 PM

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Spot on, man!

[scott4261]

What would the cont of impeachment be based on?
what law has been violated?
impeachment because you disagree with a policy?..again from a legal perspective there is no basis for impeachment
Posted by golfkt at 10:16 AM
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golfkt,

How about the fact that we were LIED into a war on the abasis of cooked intel? Bush deserves impeachment!

[us_infidel]

Vermont huh. Isn't this the state that gave a guy 60 days for raping a girl from the age of 6 to 10?
Posted by Neocon04 at 10:41 AM : Mar 07, 2007

The very same. As a side note....I don't recall CBS ever mentioning that little factoid. I vote that we revoke all of Vermont's federal funding - for everything.

[dcamp2909]

Yes to Impeachment of President and Vice President! But remember, we wouldn't have these buffoons in charge if it weren't for the stupid Electoral College. Let's clean up the mess and then, correct the problem, by eliminating the Electoral College!