Comments on: Sorority Accused Of Being Skin Deep

Some Say Delta Zeta At DePauw University Dumped Sisters Based On Looks, Ethnicity

[agnim]

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ANY AMERICANS?

[ecuadoriana]

Why do people have to join these little gangs in the first place? College is supposed to be for educational pursuits- if they want parties & popularity either return to high school or go to a nightclub.

This whole frat/sorority thing makes about as much sense as adults crying because they got kicked out of the tree house fort. Grown ups don't need to join clubs for popularity, based on popularity. Yeah, I know, defenders of this archaic "Greek system" will say "Oh, but they do good things for the community, charity events, fund raising, etc..." Then fine, they can go out & join a real volunteer organisation that doesn't require membership fees, hazing, membership based on such shallow requirements as their family's DNA, bank account, looks, weight, or hair colour.

They should stand up & be induviduals for crying out loud & stop following frat brothers & sorority sisters around like blind, brown-nosed little sheep!

[debrasimons]

Sororities and fraternities are so outdated aren't they? I certainly know that most Phi Beta Kappa graduates of major universities don't join this trifling nonsense.Check the statistics. They have been on the wane for years now..anyone interested in excellent education looks down on these groups.. Low SAT scores go hand in hand with high sorority ties.

Debra Simons
Asheville, NC

[a-ji]

In addition to, for the six who left, good decision. For the other who stayed and enjoying being selected because of their physical appearance. Well, one thing for sure, thay have no brains to know the difference between right and wrong.

[a-ji]

What is this? MISS UNIVERSE BEAUTY CONTEST?!

[gt1003]

I was a Delta Zeta this kind of thing happened at our chapter. We used "goober" cards during rush events to put down the names of girls deemed undesirable to make sure they weren't offered membership. I personally was invited to go to another chapter to help with recruiting because they were deemed socially awkward and needed "cute" girls to go and act like members. And sadder still was the fact that I joined Delta Zeta because it was the least sorority-like sorority on campus-- just like those girls did at DePauw.

But what is truly sad to me is that the reason the girls were kicked out was because they weren't making their numbers in recruiting and without the numbers they wouldn't survive as a chapter there. And the reason they weren't making their numbers was because the girls going through rush weren't willing to sign up to be their sisters because they were socially awkward. The national reps are there to make the sorority survive on campus and the only way they could do that was to try and change the image of the sorority to something they know works-- cute and popular. If the girls in the sorority had been making their numbers nothing would have been said but they weren't. It's all sick, sick, sick but also reflects the state of mind of the girls going through rush who just don't want to join a group of geeks. Plain, simple, ugly truth.

[bildooreilly]

I'd let the chick in the blue shirt join my personal private club...

[samthetvcat]

So 6 of the 'accepted' members quit in protest - what the heck is the matter with the other 6? With national attention portraing them as being superficial and discriminatory 6 of the women are still okay with that?!? At an institution of higher learning no less - wtg 'ladies' . . . ugh!

[gunnerone2]

Ok, if the sorority had been accepting girls of all sizes and shapes and still had a declining membership, then there must be some other reason than looks to cause it. A negative stereotype was mentioned in addition to declining membership but what was it?
Also, the criteria used to select suitable people for membership was not disclosed. More information would be helpful.

[olebuzzard]

Does this show how snotty and pointless these organizations (female and male) are?

[longbeachdz]

As a sister of Delta Zeta (Delta Alpha chapter, Long Beach State University), I am absolutely appalled. I only wish every chapter could be as open minded and welcoming as mine is. This just makes me so angry.

[longbeachdz]

As a sister of Delta Zeta (Delta Alpha chapter, Long Beach State University), I am absolutely appalled. I only wish every chapter could be as open minded and welcoming as mine is. This just makes me so angry.

[mnelsonix]

Ahh Kelly Higgins...Do you have a quivering boo boo lip?

[dpugypsy]

My name is Kelly Higgins. I graduated from DePauw University in 2005, and I was a active member of Delta Zeta. I know this school, I know this sorority, and I know these girls. Delta Zeta at DePauw may have not have been a large sorority, but we were sisters who supported and loved one another, who took care of one another. We helped teach each other how to be good people, and we did not base membership on how attractive each girl is. I am horribly ashamed of the national organization who rejected the dedicated, intelligent, caring women who made up our active chapter. So, to the national organization, shame on you.
And, to all of you who know nothing of these girls, who were terribly hurt by the actions of the national organization, stop stereotyping them at fat, stupid, ugly or childish. You know nothing of these women, and you can stop attacking their character and integrity at any time.

[soxperk]

The Greeks rule at DePauw and have since at least as far back as 1970 when I was in college. They are proud of their Greek status. By the schools own admission, DePauw may be the most %u201CGreek%u201D institution in the US. 70% or more of the kids are members. Go to DePauw's website and read the report from 2003 on the school President's page. Check it our for yourself before they pull it off their site.


When too much importance is placed on one aspcet or facet, things will eventually become unbalanced and tip. Especially when superficial 18-22 year-olds are involved. (I have 2 of them.) Social agenda is critical and outsiders will be shunned. Sounds like the patients are running the asylum. Monster created by administration. How do you get kids and parents to go to a small Hoosier school and pay big $? Maybe selling the Greek social system is one way?

[kpbkpb]

We are living in the "ME GENERATION." As long as adults and authority figures allow this type of behavior, girls who are not considered in "the click" will continue to treat others so callously and will try and purposely destroy others self-esteem and worth (because they were taught they are better and no one else deserves the same rights or privileges). The girls left in the sorority have obviously been raised the wrong way, caring more about self than others. Raised with lack of morals and scruples. Their parents should also be held responsible for letting such beast out into society. If it helps these young girls who were thrownout and basically told they are unworthy-- What goes around comes around...

[dvsden]

DePauw is in Indiana, DePaul is in Chicago: RTFA.

I like how the national chapter claims that the sorrority doesn't discriminate based on race. I suppose if the Black member looked like Beyonce and the Asian girls looked like hot porn stars, they would have been asked to stay

[oleander8]

Katie ain't nothin' to write home about....

[blaktungchow]

IT'S SPELLED DEPAUL NOT 'DEPAUW'AS THE TITLE OF THIS STORY SUGGESTS,
'Sorority Accused Of Being Skin Deep
Some Say Delta Zeta At DePauw University Dumped Sisters Based On Looks, Ethnicity '

DOESN'T CBS HAVE A SPELL CHECKER.

[vancouverboo]

Would Katie Couric be where she is if she were a dog?