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Study: Ku Klux Klan And Neo-Nazis Are Gaining Members As Immigrants Become More Visible

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by legendary240 February 7, 2007 2:37 PM EST
Rafterman - who cares if they are liberal, moderate, conservative, annihilists, calvinists, baptists, presbyterian, vegetarian, hedonists, etc.? WHO CARES? The fact is that they are out there and they do not represent anything but their own self-interest. Self-interest is a cross-cultural, cross-political syndrome. How does finding the right label to stick on them change anything?
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by r-u-kidding February 7, 2007 2:37 PM EST
RafterMan, let me get this right...you're stereotyping again, but forget about that for a minute, you're saying that liberals are accepting of others....unless that "other" is an unwanted fetus child, then I guess it would be OK to "lynch" them. Seems a bit contradicting don't you think?
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by rafterman1 February 7, 2007 2:30 PM EST
"Speaking of the KKK, where does senator byrd fit in??"

Hey janem4, got any examples of someone who isn't 1000 years old? Since you know, Byrd is the only one you can seem to come up with in every post.

legendary240, the "old" Democratic party of the South, the Dixiecrats, sure as h3ll are conservative. Again, it's not about party as they change over time. It's about liberals vs conservatives and, as much as you try to deny it, the large majority of people with racist feelings are conservative. Not all conservatives are racists of course, but most racists are conservative and they vote conservative candidates. Part of being liberal is acceptance of people of color and sexual orientation. If you don't accept them, if you have bigotry against them, then you aren't a liberal. Again, how many true liberals are going to be racist? Not many.
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by legendary240 February 7, 2007 2:26 PM EST
Again, I am from the south. If you want the skinny - my great-grandad was present at the lynching of a "caught red-handed" rapist who was black. There were things back then that weren't tolerated. The klan was there in force. There were plenty of "whiteys" who met the blast of a shotgun or a noose rather than going to trial for the heinous things they did. This all occurred in the 19-teens and 1920's. Bat Masterson was just hanging up his six-guns and coming back east.
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by legendary240 February 7, 2007 2:20 PM EST
The old Democratic party was and is the choice party of the klan. I live in the south and I know firsthand people who are involved, and were involved when they were young. They are not conservative by any means. The ironic thing is that the groups of people the klan despise are democrats. Politics have nothing to do with this. This whole issue is centered on heritage and the perceived threat of becoming a minority themselves.
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by rudy654-2009 February 7, 2007 2:18 PM EST
"I don't think that supremacy is their goal as much as preservance of culture. We all have our own cultural identity and there is room for that."

You obviously haven't seen how these groups propose to preserve their "culture" through violence. Or have you? Have you seen the violent posters they have showing the killings of African-Americans, Hispanics, and oh yeah, liberal Whites? They're there! But that's okay because they just want to preserve their "culture."
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by rudy654-2009 February 7, 2007 2:14 PM EST
All along this anti-immigration nonsense has been about racism. They claim that they don't oppose legal immigration, but just illegal. However, the minute legislation is proposed to make provision for legal immigration they begin to scream and shout about how this is America and they don't want their kids growing up speaking anything but English. Racism through and through. Xenophobia anybody? It's American as apple pie.
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by legendary240 February 7, 2007 2:14 PM EST
I agree. It's always safe and expedient to run down "whitey". I think we can expect a resurgence in these kinds of groups. I don't think that supremacy is their goal as much as preservance of culture. We all have our own cultural identity and there is room for that. When we see our borders being guarded unsatisfactorally and see illegal aliens being given rights due only to citizens, then what should we expect. When our government fails then it's people will rise and prevail.
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by r-u-kidding February 7, 2007 1:50 PM EST
Whatever RafterMan....quit stereotyping people (Republicans and conservatives). The KKK recruits any white, protestant person that wants to sign up, they don't care if the person is conservative, you're crazy to think that.
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by rafterman1 February 7, 2007 1:03 PM EST
"can say with a certain degree of certainty that the KKK does not recruit only republicans. What planet are you from??"

No, but they do recruit conservatives. I imagine there aren't too many liberals in the KKK. Nor are there too many liberals who are republicans. Do you thnk many KKK guys voted for Gore or Kerry? I doubt it. So you can do the math= as far as who hate groups' target audiences are.

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