Comments on: Immigration Fueling White Supremacists

Study: Ku Klux Klan And Neo-Nazis Are Gaining Members As Immigrants Become More Visible

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RafterMan,
Legendary240 makes a good point, what's wrong with standing up for our country, for our people, and for our rights?

I don't think that you can blindly put people into the republican or democratic camp, because many people don't believe all of the issues that these party's stand for. I'm sure that there are pro-life democrats and that there are pro-choice republicans. That's just one example as there are too many to list.

[rafterman1]

"They care about defending our country. They care about defending the family."

How are illegals attacking the country? Unfortuanately, the illegals everyone wants to kick out are the ones doing cr@p jobs, trying to make a living. The bad illegals (i.e., terrorists) won't be stopped one bit. In fact, most terroists will probably be legal, on student visas or something like that.

And exactly how does being against gay people and gay marriage "protect" the family? I hear all the conservatives say that, but no one has yet to prove it. What, is there only a certain number of marriage licenses allowed and if *** take them all up, straight people can't get married? Don't tell my girlfriend, she might make me rush and get married before it's to late because they gay people have arrived. If a gay couple moves in across the street, will all the straight people in the area become sterile and stop having babies?

It's your business to like or not like ***, but if you don't like what they do, then don't look, mind your own business. And it's also not people's business to try and stop what gay people do in their private lives. What if *** came to power and tried to get laws passed to stop straight people from getting married? Wouldn't care for that I'll bet.

[rafterman1]

"George Bush is trying to give them amnesty as we speak so that they can all stay here."

Yeah, and republicans are fighting him tooth and nail.

Again, if you are a cetain race and given traits based on that race, that is stereotypical. You can't change your race or origin. But political views will put you into one camp or another. You can change your political views over time and you can match your political views to a party or a political philosophy. You have a choice in that matter. And right now, in 2007, people that support things like anti-gay marriage, tough immigration bills and cutting welfare and such will gravitate towards the republican party and are generally conservative in other matters. If they didn't support those things, they would gravitate towards dems and liberals. In this case, people go to the politcal allegiance, the political allegiance doesn't come to them. That is not being stereotypical. While few people join the KKK and a vast majority of conservatives aren't racists, the ones that do join the KKK and are racist, the majority of them are conservatives.

[legendary240]

I love it. Republicans and conservatives are by your own admission the ony people in this country with sense enough to care.(or fear as you call it)
They care about the border. They care about defending our country. They care about defending the family. They care. Okay, I get it. I guess that the inverse of that is true with democrats and liberals then. You plainly infer that no one would be taking issue with any of this if the republicans and conservatives weren't carrying the flag for it. You are right.

[legendary240]

WHOA! Pull the reins Rafterman. The republicans and conservatives are not BANNING anything. You can't ban what doesn't exist. They are responding to the threat of these agendas because the electorate are demanding it. Why hasn't the same-se+ marriage issue been voted in? Because the people don't want it and a lot of them are democrats.

[legendary240]

I didn't mean that you were trying to arrest my thoughts. I meant this POLITICALLY-CORRECT nonsense that is pervading the whole country. You know, the FEELINGS crowd that are like a Hindu who is afraid to walk through grass because they might step on an insect and kill it. Ii watch people try to tap-dance around people feelings everyday. That's why we have feelings. If they hurt you respond to the person hurting them - but I guess that might hurt their feelings too. And we wouldn't want that now would we? Be a nice boy and play nice.

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RafterMan, why are you stereotyping conservatives as the ones trying to kick ILLEGAL immigrants out?? George Bush is trying to give them amnesty as we speak so that they can all stay here.

[rafterman1]

"But I am courageous enough to tell you that I don't accept everyone. I refuse to be straight-jacketed into a politically-correct position to where I am allowed no other form of thought except that mandated by another."

And I am courageous to tell everyone that I don't give a cr@p is someone is gay or an immigrant or whatever. It's not my business. You never heard of live and let live? There's nothing "politically correct" about that. H3ll, I don't even care if someone is a racist, again, their business (unless they try and make racist laws or commit crimes, then it's everyone's business). But this is a discussion forum, so we discuss. I'm not trying to force you into anything.

[rafterman1]

R-U-Kidding,

No, it isn't the same thing and you know it.

legendary240,

I came into the forum and saw people complaining about how republicans were being blamed for a surge in racists' recruitment. The usual liberal media conspiracy stuff that repubs like to blame for, well, pretty much everything that goes wrong. I pointed out that conservative policies on things like banning gay marriage and anti-immigrant legislation were creating a climate where bigoty can become acceptable and even legislated into our laws. It gives hope to these racists that they still have a voice in America. That's no stereotype. Are liberals the ones pushing to ban gay marriage or to kick out all the illegal immigrants out? No, the conservatives, along with some moderate democrats are doing that. That's what's helping to create the climate. Throw in a good dose of anti-Muslim, terrorist fear (agains, stoked mainly by conservatives), and the racists are more encouraged than ever. Identifying political and social trends among politicians and voters is not stereotyping.

[legendary240]

Liberals are not accepting of all others unless those "others" are too young to vote. Why try to ascend a pedestal, you'll only fall off. I am a white, conservative, born-again Christian, middle-class, legal citizen of the USA. But I am courageous enough to tell you that I don't accept everyone. I refuse to be straight-jacketed into a politically-correct position to where I am allowed no other form of thought except that mandated by another. This country was formed by independent thinkers and it will preserved by the very same. Consider yourself tolerant all you want, just why don't you tolerate the intolerant?