Comments on: States Buck Fed Plan For National ID

Citing Privacy Concerns, $11B Cost, A Dozen States Oppose Real ID Law; Congress May Repeal

[randalds]

The BIBLE says, in the end times, people will not be able to buy or sell without "the mark of the beast". Are we getting close?
Posted by Hermit22 at 05:00 PM : Feb 04, 2007


That would make the beast George W. Bush. Sounds about right.

[middleman8]

You had better get over and ask the Russians
to save everyone, they whipped the Nazi dictator.

[jolsonbear]

I could care less if the government knows where I am--they already do---and a national ID isn't going to change that---utility companies have provided that service to the gov for decades. And as far as Identity theft is concerned---not a treat at all. Just get a few credit cards, run up to the limit and never pay. that way your credit score is always low---then simply live off cash and save the rest. It can be done if you don't squall your tires to get to mickey D's as fast as you can every time your little brats whine. I'd love to see someone steal my ID---you couldn't get a 10-year-old to loan you 2 quarters for a candy bar.

[olgreyghost]

We already have a National ID that is used to track criminals, deadbeat dads, and deserters - and it has a 9 digit number on it. We don't need another that all criminals - common and agents of Big Brother - can use to their unlawful profit and our detriment.

Praise the Lord for Maine - now if I can get few of our benevolent guv'mint officials here in The Republic to hitch our horses to this wagon...

[inventagod]

You have already been implanted during your last flu shot. You are being tracked right now. You signed the paperwork at your last doctor's appointment. What, you didn't read what you signed?

[mike19955]

Real ID was needed years ago. This is one nation, America, we need one drivers license system and one legitimate ID card system. There should be no real cost to the government to implement this system. The cost of the system is passed on to the users of the system. When a person gets their orignal drivers license the fees are assessed, and when renewal time comes the fees for the system are again assessed. Same for ID only card users, fees are assessed the user at the time of issue and again at renewal. One country,one citizen, and one ID card. Not 50 various ID cards

[hermit22]

The BIBLE says, in the end times, people will not be able to buy or sell without "the mark of the beast". Are we getting close?

[dhague]

We already have a perfectly good national identification document: a US passport. Requiring each state to produce something similar is ridiculous.

It is simply unrealistic, for example, to expect state drivers' license offices to be experts on immigration laws.

If the Federal government wants something, they they should appropriate the money and pass the laws to make it happen. Unfunded Congressional mandates rank right up there with the sort of Congressional blackmail that brought us the 55mph speed limit and the highest drinking age on the planet as attacks on the federalist principles enshrined in the US Constitution.

[feelfree1]

Re: "Citing Privacy Concerns, $11B Cost, A Dozen States Oppose Real ID Law; Congress May Repeal"

Good. Our representatives had better stand up on their hind legs, on this issue.

[randalds]

It's no more a privacy intrusion than your current state ID is - this will harm only criminals.
Posted by SusanHelit at 04:14 PM : Feb 04, 2007

The goal of a national ID card is not to correct these problems. It is so the government knows where everyone of it's people is 24-7 and that is none of their DAM*NED business! That's the privacy violation! Yes we do have other problems and turning the US into a fascist state will certainly solve some of them, but the price is way way way too high!

[susanhelit]

We do need a singular ID - I can't imagine how we've gotten so far without it, but we have huge problems due to this lack. From criminals undetected because they're in a different state, to deadbeat dads who cannot be caught, to the ease with which a criminal can forge a fake ID - this is a real, huge problem, even when we ignore the world of terrorism and illegal immigration.

It's no more a privacy intrusion than your current state ID is - this will harm only criminals.

[t_barr]

yall are being hoodwinked by the Hispanic lobby.
Posted by SharnCedar

Right. The John Birch Society, Alex Jones, etc. are the Hispanic lobby. The National ID is just another in a long list of attacks against our Freedoms and the Constitution. I say it's way past time WE shout, NO MORE!
http://www.jbs.org/node/861

Ron Paul '08

[randalds]

yall are being hoodwinked by the Hispanic lobby.

Posted by SharnCedar at 03:48 PM : Feb 04, 2007

And you've been had by the neocons. Sure you're not Cheney or Rove (the new Goering and Goebbels)?

[michellem99-2009]

I am not for this as I feel the same way as the state of Maine does on this issue. I say NO to a national ID card. I do oppose the Real ID Law. I feel that the congress needs to not pass this as I see it as a trap . We pay taxes for what? This
is how the congress wants to blows the people's taxes/money on this as it is a step towards the Nazis of Hitler's day. That was before I was born. I was told all growing up how lucky I am to to live in this nation and that this IS the greatist nation in the world and the like. It is the rudeist. I feel that we have lost the freedoms that we once held so dear. It does saddens me. When will this madess stop and who will have pay the price of freedoms that G W Bush has taken from us. I am in my 50s so I DO feel that the govt can't be trusted nor Pres Bush. Thany

[sharncedar]

you people are too silly. you already have a federal id, it is your credit rating and its controlled by unaccountable corporations and consists of inaccuracies you cannot challenge or change. every time you try to open a bank account, or rent an apartment, or get a job, these private data corporations are indentifying you and you have no recourse to ensure the data is accurate ro fair.

a national ID card is a problem only to illegal aliens and to the corporations who currently provide such services. This lobby group is trying to scare people about a national ID. I would much rather have my ID controlled by the federal government, where I have the right to vote, than by the current system which is fraud and profit and allows illegal aliens to thrive with a wink.

yall are being hoodwinked by the Hispanic lobby.

[laneff]

I admit, I agree to the idea that a national identification card causes the shivers, and echoes ghosts of horrors past, such as the ones suffered by the Jews during Nazi control over much of Europe. The control of the Soviets in the USSR and their socialist regime, other dictatorships, like Cuba and so on. Do I want to forfeit honesty, freedom of expression and movement and other freedoms afforded through the Constistution? Heck no!

A national identification card does three things against the Constitution, it labels us as property, which is against the 13th Amendment, it removes our inalienable rights, including the freedoms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You cannot have your privacy, your freedom to pursue life as you appreciate it, if you've got the US government watching your every move.

I have enough problems with the wiretap procedures that are going on regardless of our protests. But what they propose here is just putting us on the equivalent of a continent wide prison system. Tracking every one of us as though we were felons on monitoring devices. Thank you, unlike ten to fifteen percent of this country's population, I obey the laws, the ordinances and more to the best of my ability. This identity card implies that all of those in America are untrustworthy. I'm sorry, that's taking government bodies and their controls just too far.

[ajmystic]

This country was founded to give people INDIVIDUAL freedom. We all should have the freedom to not have the government in our faces 24/7. With a national ID, the government is there whether we want them or not. Now that we have to have a passport to get back in to our own country from Canada or Mexico, most people will have one. Why isn't a passport good enough for identification? Sure, some people who do not travel will not have a passport, but if those people have a state driver's license or ID card, that should be enough to identify that person. No more Big Brother interference, please.

[candojj1]

$11 billion is how much is wasted on the ineffective DEA. The energy dept budget is $1 billion. Social Security and Medicare are in the budget and are supposed to be outside the budget and not pilfered. We hear bu*ll cr*ap about how SS is going broke. Of course it is. Every part of the budget is stealing from it. In 2007 the budget was $400 billion in the red. How can he spend more when the purse has been mismanaged and is more than empty?

[t_barr]

States Buck Fed Plan For National ID

It's good to see that a few states are waking-up to this, "This is almost a frontal assault on the freedoms of America when they require us to carry a national ID to monitor where we are." Now if they would just work to repeal the UnPatriot Acts, the NAFTA Super Highway BS, the North American Union treason, and the Open Borders by 2010 insanity. I mean, why, if you're waging a war on Terror, would you open the Borders?
http://www.jbs.org/nau

Then there's this little jewel;
http://infowars.net/articles/february2007/010207Yoo.htm
Anyone that still approves of Bush after becoming aware of this approved atrocity doesn't deserve to be walking the streets of America, much less holding a Public Office.

Stop the insanity, Impeach TODAY!

Ron Paul '08

[bellal-2009]

Perhaps linking all the states computers is going a bit to far.Posted by vbnvbn at 02:59 PM : Feb 04, 2007

I don't think that's going too far, it'll happen eventually out of necessity. Maybe we should break up into provinces like Canada.