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From 9/11 To Suri Cruise, Our Muddled World, Internet Help Them Cast Doubt On News Stories

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by saransk January 30, 2007 4:24 PM EST
Let's see....
The Muslims think the Jews knew about it and told everyone to stay home
Those in this article think secret explosives brought the Towers down (why?)

My comment on most of these conspiracies is that the US government has never been able to keep a secret for more than a couple of years. Even the Manhatten project had both spies in it and others who had guessed its purpose. Considering how easy it is to send information around the world I don't believe our government is capable of keeping thing like this a secret. No matter who is involved - somewhere, somehow, the information is leaked or alluded to by someone with their own agenda. Considering the current situation between the parties in Washington, no matter what the "big picture," either side would be sure to use any and all information to gain some power over the other. Considering the level of most corporate boards and company heads - do you really think they could create such cabals??
Maybe right before and after WWII there were such leaders but the ivy league spies and corporate leaders are all gone - they all want the big checks and the perks - to heck with national interest -all they care about is the $$$$$.
No, sheer beraucratic inertia and turf wars prevented the US from putting all the pieces together - that and an ingrained inabilty to believe that Musilm (read ARAB) extremist could possibly be successful.
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by afmca January 30, 2007 4:23 PM EST
Conspiracy theories get their standing because of the total dishonesty of politicians and corporations. How many times has it been proven that the truth is not told and that the real story is usually about gaining power and/or wealth. If people had more confidence is the supposed leaders of our country, rumors and conspiracy theories would be left out on the fringe. Politicians and Corporations use spin-meisters to control the truth and push their agendas. It would be safe to say that reality lies somewhere between the power-broker lies and the looneytoon conspiracy addicts.
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by gwlafayette January 30, 2007 4:22 PM EST
This is a serious problem that I have seen escalate to frightening levels. We are losing our ability to fight our enemies because we have impregnated Americans with the idea that only Europeans can commit atrocities so now many people make up ridiculous stories to keep this notion in tact. The multiculturalism/tolerance/diversity training that the baby boomer have shoved in our face has been totally one-sided. It has just made everyone think that attacking European and American ideals is acceptable and prevented us from defending ourselves.
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by jn122736 January 30, 2007 4:22 PM EST
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jn122736-How far back would these investigations go? Are you of the thought that the plan for the attacks were hatched after 1/20/01?
Posted by janem4 at 12:37 PM : Jan 30, 2007


Starting with the immediate results of the attacks and working as far back as derived evidence dictates. It should be fairly simple to perform tests on material from the buildings and surrounding area to detect any evidence of explosives if any were used.

It also should be easy enough to simulate the actual plane collision and resulting fire into either or both buildings to determine if they actually could cause such a collapse.

You insinuate from your reference to 1/20/01 that I may be biased against this administration. Is it possible that you are the one who is biased?

They may or may not have been associated in any way with the attacks. An honest and full investigation could answer a lot of questions either way.
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by notblue January 30, 2007 4:18 PM EST
When faced with reports that do not support or promote the liberal, passifist, isolationist, left wing agenda then conspiracy theories must be propogated to justify the ideology. The left wingers here at the CBS comment areas while on the one hand cherry pick news that supports there agenda when faced with truths that don't, the common rebuttle is to point fingers, claim lies have been stated and finally fabricate a conspiracy to deflect any truth not supportive to there cause.
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by huskerarmy January 30, 2007 3:51 PM EST
"One word explains it all- KOOKS"
I finally agree with you on something gunner.
The Liberal media, the Rockefeller family, the AFL-CIO, the United Nations, abortion, the liberal academic community, the ACLU, The NAACP, evolution, stem cell research, The gay agenda, all part of a conspiracy to undermine the moral fabric of this country? What a bunch of Kooks!
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by iduard January 30, 2007 3:48 PM EST
Very scary! Humans are capable of that and worse! Thank goodness that their is a GOD that will judge us all!

Eduardo Carlos
Ciudad de Guatemala, Guatemala
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by olgreyghost January 30, 2007 3:48 PM EST
Just because someone has a theory of a conspiracy doesn't mean there wasn't a conspiracy in the first place...
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by t_barr January 30, 2007 3:40 PM EST
T_Barr-Naw, CBS stands for the clinton broadcasting system.
Posted by janem4 at 12:37 PM : Jan 30, 2007

Rigghhtt, did you listen to it?

http://www.freepress.net/conference/audio07/f1-inside_corporate.mp3
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by one_american January 30, 2007 3:34 PM EST
9/11 Conspiracy Theorists make me laugh.

Get an education, you morons.
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by mdc76082 January 30, 2007 3:32 PM EST
janem4 - bravo. you summed it up greatly in such few words. i would just like to ad, when joe public can't rationalize what has been given to him/her, theories of conspiracy & corruption start polluting his/her mind. he/she always thinks there's more to the story than meets the eye, he/she starts to blame the networks, govt, etc., when infact there isn't anything. its nothing more than paranoia. a fractured fairytale in order to get answer that he/she is comfortable with. look at Alex Jones (king of the conspiracy theorists), he hasn't proven squat and if he did & there was a conspiracy wouldn't you think the government's black helicopters would come & swoop down on him and take him away? Ha!
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by hillaryin08 January 30, 2007 3:32 PM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rOjmDsPg_s
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by j-whitman January 30, 2007 3:28 PM EST
Here's an MSNBC article on how Bush is creating more problems with UAE allies
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16877295/page/2/
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by loneairwolf1 January 30, 2007 3:25 PM EST
Conspiracy or not, When the science is suppressed, The truth is lost.
When the facts meet the test of science, then, and only then, will we know.
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by bluestardad January 30, 2007 3:23 PM EST
Make the Congress and the Administration define who the enemy is in Iraq. The Neocons cannot tell you who we are sending our troops to fight. It is a sure bet that the Chicken Hawks are not going to go fight. Saudis are aiding the Sunnis and Iran is aiding the Shiites and the 12 former members of Saddam%u2019s regime are running scared hiding in caves! So how do we tell our troops to fire upon? Why is America even there? OK here is your chance, don%u2019t just set in front of your computer and complain spouting meaningless rants of sludge, do something about it! This is the contact address for your Senator! Send them a message of your opinion. All Class Two Senators are up for Reelection in 2008. Be respectful even if they do not deserve it because their office does! http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
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by jn122736 January 30, 2007 3:22 PM EST
As for 911:
At that time, any hijacked plane could have been steered into the WTC towers. The attacks were successful only because it was the official and accepted practice to offer no resistance until the plane was on the ground. No one ever expected a team of hijackers to kill themselves in the process. In that respect 911 was not a big deal.

If the resulting fire from one commercial jetliner striking these buildings near the top was the sole cause of its collapse then all such buildings should be immediately evacuated and safely brought down.

If burning fuel was actually that hot I suspect the heat from automobile engines would immediately boil all the water from the radiators, then melt down within minutes, taking the chassis with them. Ridiculous? Definitely.

The unanswered and mostly un-addressed questions surrounding 911 are too obvious and numerous to simply be classified as %u201Cconspiracy theories%u201D.

To help restore the loss of confidence and trust in our government, especially the Bush administration, a fully OPEN AND INDEPENDENT investigation of the entire 911 incidents needs to be held.
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by gwagener January 30, 2007 3:20 PM EST
Posted by ryindy at 11:28 AM : Jan 30, 2007
Conspriacy nutz tend to vanish into thin air when credible sources are available.

Conspricy nuts don't shrink from facts. They either insist the facts are contrived or irrelevant.
Politicians similarly don't yield to the facts. There's Clinton's famous "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" statement and Cheney's insistance that there was a connection between Al Queda and Iraq long after no credible intellegence supported that assertion.

In fact, conspiracy theorys have helped politicians because when confronted with incontravertable facts they can now scoff at them as ridiculous consiracy and they know at least 35% of the country will believe them (according to recent polls).
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by t_barr January 30, 2007 3:14 PM EST
"Point out what is right wing about CBS?"
OK, it's titled 'Inside Corporate Media: Can it Tell the Truth?'
And an audio session can be found here;
http://www.freepress.net/conference/=full_schedule07
I'd say it answers a few questions.
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by antoniof123 January 30, 2007 3:07 PM EST
I would say that the real problem is that we Americans complain but do not do a thing. All we do is say we voted and they give us stickers. Stickers for suckers that is what you are if you want the truth from you elected officials force them to tell you. The easiest way is to write if they do not answer call if still not response vote them out. Stop playing to the rich and religions of this world. You will be better off for it the religious leaders are in bed with the government and they want there end of the world to happen.
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by cbs_oliver January 30, 2007 3:05 PM EST
More and more people are noticing that the news they receive does not make sense.

They develop theories in attempts to explain things.

Better would be investigation. But that would require that politicians and journalists and others did their jobs - whcih doesn't seem to be happening.

At least ordinary folks don't develop wild fantasys and then go and kill people based on them.

It takes politicians to do that.
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