Comments on: Dangerous World Fuels Conspiracy Theorists

From 9/11 To Suri Cruise, Our Muddled World, Internet Help Them Cast Doubt On News Stories

[t_barr]

Well, I've said it before. All that needs to be done to quiet the 9-11 Theorists is to have a REAL Investigation. Something that has yet to happen. I believe that there are enough inconsistencies in the 'Official' Conspiracy Theory to warrant another investigation. One of the latest inconsistencies that I've found concerns clocks. Clocks that tell a different story than the supported one. But, like I said, there are hundreds of other inconsistencies.
Clocks don't lie;
http://blog.lege.net/content/Seven_Hours_in_September.pdf

[huskerarmy]

"The left wingers here at the CBS comment areas while on the one hand cherry pick news that supports there agenda when faced with truths that don't, the common rebuttle is to point fingers, claim lies have been stated and finally fabricate a conspiracy to deflect any truth not supportive to there cause."

Do you not realize that you just described Fox News and the lead up to the Iraq war?

[jebediah76]

Mel Carnahan - what the hell are even talking about? Bush's Pioneer's? Either your tounge is in your cheek or doused in cool-aid. I hope the former not the latter.

[jebediah76]

Not sure about 9/11 conspiracy but here is the thing:
CIA EXISTS to foster disinformation, set up puppet governments, and therby gain control of sovereign nations. With Bush Sr., the former head of CIA, as well as many notable political figures in the past fifty years going all the way back to Nixon - How is it unreasonable to question where their true loyalties lie?

These people are trained to subvert the will of other governments and their people - why oh why would they not do the same thing in their own country - if they honestly believed their political adversaries to be wrong? Instilled with an ability to put moral and ethical thinking aside in the pursuit of political goals and very real monetary gain, this organization is quite possibly the leading terrorist organization on the planet.

Think those are strong words? It is precisely the careful and measured use of terror which has lead this country into pre-emptive war in the Middle East. That is why people attack other people - either they are psychopaths or they are are honestly fearful for their lives.

Weather you choose to believe in the reasons for the Iraq war as stated by our government or not, we are ALL responsible for being there - either because we supported the wrong man in G.W. Bush or withered when it came time to fight the small battles with people trained to bully, bait, and argue by FOX News.

[melcarnahan]

Yes, Bush's annual intelligence budget is only $50 Billion / year and the White House isn't very secretive at all. The US intelligence budget is much, much smaller than the annual FBI budget so we can be assured the Bush truly believes in the rule of law. And Bush and America's intelligence agencies would never break the law. That's why they put the Director of National Intelligence into the chain of command to oversee the FBI. By keeping secret intelligence above the police, Bush's Pioneers can be sure that in America, no one is above the law.

[fleshmonger6]

The first thing that should be understood by people before they even begin to talk about this theory or that theory being true or not, is that in a world in which those who govern choose to do so in a manner that is not 100% transparent to the people being governed, it would only be intelligence on the part of those governing to participate in some form of conspiratorial behavior. That being the case, people need to ask one question: Does the U.S. government operate in a manner that is 100% transparent? It does not matter the ralionale one might give for the government not acting in a transparent fashion. If the answer is no, it would be foolish to believe that there are not conspiracies being orchestrated against the American people... So the question isn't whether or not conspiracies exist, but rather what those conspiracies are...

[scully15]

my husbands crazy friend called after 10 pm the other night and talk ed for over an hour and a half about Loos Change and the person who made it. I think that we do not know all that happened on 9/11. A person would be naive if they thought we knew all of what went down. However, I cannot believe of my country that they planted explosives. I mean, come on people, when would they have planted them and, THE BUILDING IS FULL OF PEOPLE, they would have been seen. I think they knew something may or may not happene and stood by to use it as an excuse to go to war. What perturbs me most though is that they said it was one person who perpetrated th attacks and lost focus after a while and went after someone else, whom they caught. That irks me, and they do not appear to be looking for the first person they started the war over. What happened to catching him?

[tibu987]

Right wing, left wing, conservative, liberal.
Do you believe that a secret conspiracy of that magnitude could be kept secret?
Once two people know a secret, it is no longer a secret.
I believe there will always be a number of people who will say black when you say white, day, when you say night, etc. It is human nature and in itself, is not a bad thing to question something. It is a bad thing when it becomes belligerent or believed in the face of insurmountable evidence to the contrary.

[johnshaft4]

Here's a couple of crazy, insane conspiracy theories..."We will be greeted as liberators", "The [insurgency] dead enders are on their last throes..."

[bildooreilly]

Didn't Condi say something like "We never would have imagined that they would fly airplanes into buildings" when in fact on that very morning they were doing a "Drill" that was exactly the same as everything that happened.

[jimibear]

And as a side-note: If you are going to use "pacifist" as an insult (although I can't imagine why) you might at least learn to spell it. It's not a tough word. I'll bet even Bush could manage it with just a little assistance.

Proper spelling of basic vocabulary would go some small way to making your posts appear less as if they are written by an ignoramus.

Every little bit helps, you know.

[jimibear]

"When faced with reports that do not support or promote the liberal, passifist, isolationist, left wing agenda then conspiracy theories must be propogated to justify the ideology. The left wingers here at the CBS comment areas while on the one hand cherry pick news that supports there agenda when faced with truths that don't, the common rebuttle is to point fingers, claim lies have been stated and finally fabricate a conspiracy to deflect any truth not supportive to there cause.
Posted by notblue at 01:18 PM : Jan 30, 2007"

No, notblue, again you are assigning your own mental processes to others. Based o your posts here, it seems you draw your conclusions based only on ideology, ignoring facts. Not everyone is the same.

A more accurate summation, leaving out your bias (or indeed mine) would read like this:

When faced with an explanation of events which does not explain all the facts and contradicts some of them, and when that explanation is put forward by a group which has, in the past, lied more than it has told the truth, it is a natural human tendency to concoct alternative theories.

As other posters have said here, if our leaders weren't proven liars (in every administration) we would believe them more. Given the track record of the US government, not to doubt them would be just plain stupid.

[bildooreilly]

My favorite conspiracy book of all is called "Codex Magica" Secret Signs, Mysterious Symbols, and Hidden Codes of The Illuminati by Texe Marrs great book, enlightening, empowering, your world will never be the same again after reading it... Reading this book is like having your vision restored after living a lifetime in blindness. Check it out...

[bildooreilly]

Why is the media so worried about the "conspiracy theorists" after all they're just a bunch of kooks right? What if most of those horrible conspiracy theories were true? Which many are if you go do your own research instead of letting the television tell you how to think like a good sheep.

[calico91]

You guys watch too much TV!

[bildooreilly]

Don't believe those wacky "conspiracy theorists" they're nothing but a bunch of kooks, put your faith in Big Media, Big Government, and Big Brother, they won't lie to you...

[agnim]

"Dangerous World Fuels Conspiracy Theorists"

THAT IS JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPAGANDA AND IT'S OWN "CONSPIRACY THEORY".

Fact is

CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT BECAUSE, AND ONLY BECAUE, OUR GOVERNMENT SO-CALLED 'LEADERS' ARE CHRONIC LIARS, DECEIVERS AND PROPAGANDISTS!

When our 'leaders' CANNOT BE TRUSTED to tell the truth, then it is only NATURAL that the citizens will advance 'another story' to combat possible governmental LIES!

And why does our leaders continue to lie and cause dissension and destruction among the polulace? Because the our lying leaders can get away with lying again and again.

For example who is going to call for impeachment even when they are obvious lies presented to the Congress and to the world over Iraq?

As long as we continue to reward lying leaders, it would be foolish for our leaders to cease lying.

[drudge2]

3 questions.

In the past, have US government agencies engaged in disinformation campaigns?

If yes, have they stopped?

If no, which conspiracy theories might they be fostering?

[samthetvcat]

He he - I personally don't believe in the 9/11 conspiracy but I told some neo-con on this board the other day that I did just to get his goat because he was rolling his eyes at all the left-wing speculations while nevertheless believing in all the right-wing speculations. It was just so infuriating.

The 9/11 conspiracy isn't unreasonable - I just personally think it's more likely that the admin ignored the signs because destruction on that level was inconceivable. Plus the current admin are control freaks so it would have been all but impossible for them to sit and let something happen - they'd have been more likely to want to act. And also, they're arrogant so it seems to me more likely that if they had read the threat correctly and been in a position to ponder stopping the attack, they would have more likely thought they could stop the attack AND still use it as an excuse to wage war in Iraq.

But in terms of the bigger picture, I would guess another contributing factor is the increased value placed on money and materialism over truth in today's society. In the wake of Enron and some of the problems the NYTimes had with made up stories, it's human nature that somebody will go on to take that speculative leap about to what extent the almighty dollar wages war on the truth in the media realm.

[gwlafayette]

How can we imprison people for questioning one atrocity and not another? The western world is ill. We are committing suicide.