Comments on: 9/11 Worker Dies As Son Heads To Speech

Cesar Borja Jr. Was Invited To State Of Union By Sen. Clinton

[jimibear]

"Actually they did NOT fall into their own footprint. , WTC1 fell OVER WTC6 and hit WTC7. WTC6 was almost totally destroyed by WTC1 (that would be a really awful demolition job) but because it was not as tall it remained standing (barely). But WTC7, being much taller than WTC6, couldn't take having a 20 story hole punched in it.

Posted by UbikValis2 at 12:43 PM : Jan 24, 2007"


Um .. no, but nice try. WTC7 was untouched and fell (into its own footprint) without visible external assistance, supposedly because of the shock wave, which certainly sounds feasible. MTC1 did indeed fall straight into its own footprint.

Any number of sites could show you that. I'm not going to get into the rights and wrongs of what happened on 9/11, but I will say that giving wrong information doesn't help anyone.

[santo_marco]

It was a catastrophe. Unplanned on our part. Why should anyone be "held responsible" for the healthcare of those afflicted? They just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[duhrer]

Despite all the defense that has been articulated regarding the commander in theif's responsibilities, he, like the captain of any ship (or in this case, sheep), should be held responsible for anything that goes wrong while steering it, defending it, loading/unloading... etc. Even if he had no direct knowledge of any of the machinations of his administration, the captain of any ship is accountable for all that happens on, in and around his ship while he is in charge.

[ubikvalis2]

"and was stunned when the first two buildings fell into their own footprint."

Actually they did NOT fall into their own footprint. , WTC1 fell OVER WTC6 and hit WTC7. WTC6 was almost totally destroyed by WTC1 (that would be a really awful demolition job) but because it was not as tall it remained standing (barely). But WTC7, being much taller than WTC6, couldn't take having a 20 story hole punched in it.

[canaima]

I don't think there's any doubt that our next President will be a Democrat.

Let's see if, with a Democrat in the Oval office, the Democrat administration decides to will pass legistlation to "pay up" for Sept. 11 health treatment.

I for one am not convinced that they will beyond token payments.

[inventagod]

When I saw WTC7 plummet to the ground, I knew without a doubt we were watching Controlled Demolition Inc in action. I have watched demolitions before, and was stunned when the first two buildings fell into their own footprint. WTC7 made the area a crime scene, and not one elected official treated it as such.
Now that the real heros of 9/11 are dying like this, I beg those who can to find out if our government was involved. I believe there were those in the Bu$h administration who steered the Committee away from the obvious truth, and down the path of a right-wing conspiracy theory.

[jhearne1-2009]

of course bush has god on his side, he think's that he is god!

[debluezzman]

Seems like Cryonbrain is breathing good air that someone else should be breathing, its sad when we have things that live like it

[pfd0511-2009]

I do wish the Democrats would get off their soapbox about the Republicans. I am old enough to remember when the Dems were in office during the Vietnam war, sending thousands upon thousands (and the weekly death toll was way more than the total number of the Iraqi war) and when our boys came home - they totally ignored every branch(to the extent that they could not get the needed medical treatment for exposure to chemicals and the elements - not to mention the psychological effects they came home with)as if THEY were the cause of that war. Not to mention that a certain Dem in the Oval office committed adultery, while even another DEM killed a young woman by leaving her in a car submerged in water (also during an adulterous affair). How soon the Dems forget the err of their ways. I believe that President Bush is trying to do what is best for the United States because he has God on his side. Let us pull together and move forward "One Nation Under God".

[cryonbrian]

Everybody has got a freaking sad story! GET OVER IT! It is all a part of life! A time to be born and a time to die! Every other story in the news is about a bunch of propaganda! These people are not heroes! They were and are paid to do a job regardless of the risk! Every freaking body and their grandmother have got a tragic story! From public figures to regular American%u2019s everyone has got a sad story to tell! Suck it up, my ancestors did! Everybody is always looking for someone to blame and someone to pay! Typical Americans!

[Fred Lane]

Because I have family on the other side of the river in New Jersey, I distinctly remember warning them all that disastrous day that people WOULD get sick and possibly die from the toxic cloud in the air and that it might posibly change the weather there temporarily. It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to figure that one out but of course within a week, some government agency that claimed to have checked the air quality claimed the air was fine. This board is for all comments from the left or right and you Bushbots that still believe in your commander-in-chief should go and support his efforts if that's what YOU truly believe. GW is and continues to be a failure in so many ways that I've lost count and in my opinion, does not have the best interest of this country or its people in his heart. Greed, lies, deceit, death and destruction, racism, and profiteering seem to be the only thing the GOP really cares about and NOT the well-being of this country or its people. Chew on that Bushbots!

[rafterman1]

"No one couldnt predict what happen at the trade center would make people sick."

Are you kidding me? The media was already talking about potential health hazards from the debris, especially lung damage, just days after the attack. The dust from the debris was a huge issue. Everybody knew. Except Glorious Leader of course.

[webdepot]

"......No one couldnt predict what happen at the trade center would make people sick. I dont believe the president should be blame for that......"
Posted by annette999

This administration has been accused by more than one source of leaning heavily on the Dept. of Health to issue false reports about the quality of the environment surrounding ground zero saying it was safe.. If the truth had been allowed to be disseminated, additional precautions could have been taken for those working the rubble pile..

This administration has lied since the first day in office and they continue to do so.. It is really sad that you people can't fathom that but instead blindly follow Sir Lies a Lot...

[annette999]

oh my goodness is this what this board about/ bashing the President and how bad he doing is Job?No one couldnt predict what happen at the trade center would make people sick. I dont believe the president should be blame for that. and yes I am sick and tired of the democrat of bashing the President.They think they could do better lets see.

[huskerarmy]

"Calling him a villian in the white house shows how stupid most of these people are. No one thought of illnessess from the fall out on 9/11..."

Finwick1,
Why is it stupid to call this man a villian, when your only defense is that he is human? You imply that he is competent.., Those who consider him a villian give him more credit then that. There's a malady the infects GOPers today. It's called "greed." The point isn't that "no one thought of illnesses from 911," the point is that GOPers don't want to pay for the care for the heros who are still dying.

[long_rider]

http://unsungwar.com/

http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=11&Itemid=15

[alphaa10-2009]

Bush Disasters--
Finwick1 said, "I am SO sick of the democrats bashing Bush for everything that they can think of. Calling him a villian in the white house shows how stupid most of these people are. No one thought of illnessess from the fall out on 9/11... President Bush has served under the most severe happenings in the history of the U.S. He is a human being ... my hair won't go right today! ... pray for the man!!"
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You miss the point entirely. (And some of us do pray for Bush daily, because he needs the best advice he can get.)
But I note your only defense for Bush is his inherent frailty as a human being, not because of particular achievements. And that is the point of critics-- Bush has been an utter failure at due diligence. This is called simple competence and intelligence in most management contexts. As you correctly observe, the Bush watch has seen an extraordinary run of disasters.

[alphaa10-2009]

Bush Disasters-- 2
Let me point out only some Bush failures of "due dililgence"--
1. Not scheduling even one counter-terrorism meeting in the eight months preceding 911, and ignoring persistent tugs at his sleeve from Richard Clark about somebody named Osama bin Laden. Paul Wolfowitz had to be reminded who bin Laden was in the hours after 911.

2. Not effectively marshalling forces to apprehend or kill bin Laden and the Taliban. At the direction of our congress, Bush initially went into Afghanistan but then lost interest, pulling units for his Iraq invasion. Not surprisingly, Bin Laden is still out there, al Qaeda is bigger than ever, and has set up a model insurgency in Iraq under our very noses-- the country where no al Qaeda existed before Bush. And back in Afghanistan, the Taliban is back, with a bullet.

[alphaa10-2009]

Bush Disasters-- 3
3. Bush redistributed tax burdens to the middle class and lower, so the only people not paying for Bush and his so-called Tax Cuts are those in the upper five percent. Bush has been an economic burden for the American middle class and has widened the gap between rich and poor in America. And unless you count "McJobs" as economic growth, the economy's job creation rate is dismal. American firms are faltering in even traditionally strong areas.

4. Katrina showed a Bush totally out to lunch, with no history of proactive funding for New Orleans levee work, and no clear command of recovery measures. Bush and appointees had gutted the FEMA of competent people. Failure to plan and fund US Army Corps of Engineers work in years before Katrina led one Army official to become loudly critical. For his trouble, this registered Republican was forced to resign. Heckuva job!

[alphaa10-2009]

Bush Disasters-- 4
5. Iraq was not on the menu at 911, and last summer, when asked what was the connection between 911 and Iraq, Bush admitted petulantly, "Nuttin'!" Yet, in 2001, immediately after 911, Bush and gang went to work on finding a reason to attack Iraq. Bush and his regime lied to the American people over and over again about threats to national security. After invasion, none was found-- no uranium enrichment equipment, no chemical trailers, nothing.

6. The Iraq war and its $355 billion waste provides an easy excuse to gut funding for everything else, especially educational programs. The Bush "No Child Left Behind" initiative was, and remains, an unfunded joke. Likewise, the Bush measure to fund private charities is mere window-dressing and public relations, as charged by even critics close to the program.

7. The country still has no comprehensive healthcare system we can afford. The HMO circus Bush created has left Americans paying 2.5 times more for their health care per capita than what even "socialist" EU systems pay. And America is dead last of industrialized nations in infant mortality-- after even Cuba.