Comments on: Church Sex Abuse Victims Can Sue Vatican

U.S. Judge Allows Sex Abuse Lawsuit Against Vatican To Go Forward

[alvinmoop]

Enjoy the rant, guys, but this suit is going nowhere. The Vatican is a sovereign country and as such can't be sued without its permission. Assuming this ruling survives appeal, (a dubious proposition at best,) the Vatican can simply ignore any damage award. What are the courts going to do? Seize St. Peter's?

Also, one might note that all the abuse (with few exceptions) happened in the 60's, 70's, and into the very early 80's. With the start of John Paul II's papacy, the Church cleaned up its act; but this kind of crime is the gift that keeps on giving. Those within the Church that did the crimes and those who let it all happen are being rightfully punished, but as the cases age and are resolved, this scandal will eventually just go away.

[hermit22]

Agnim, somebody must have really hurt you bad, or someone that you love. Whatever that was or is, I'm sorry and hope you will feel better soon!
Having said that, I'm looking for lawyers meaner than junk yard dogs, who can "nail jello to the wall" when dealing with deceiving liars, and when they get done with the Vatican, maybe they can scare the wackos in the state of Wisconsin till they are petrified spitless,for having covered up childabuse in the public schools! If I can save up for gas to go there and rant myself, I would sure like to take you along to go balistic on them right along with me. Please.

[frankly6]

The Catholic Church behaves more like a rogue corporation than a church. They have little or no concern for their parishiners.

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SusanHelit-

Considering the imprisoned priests and the judgements and awards against the church, I think it has been more than established that the church is not above American law. In regards to God's law, you'll have to ask him. Don't hold your breath waiting on an answer.

[susanhelit]

And the Vatican has objected to and vetoed some of the not overly large steps the American bishops have tried to take. There's no repentance there, they are only upset to be caught, and even more upset at the idea they might have to change at all, that we don't recognize how obviously above both American and God's law they are.

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SusanHelit-

Considering that the church has even stooped so low as to try to blame some of it's victims, I agree. They have been dragged kicking and screaming into compensatory suits - hardly an attitude of repentance, by any measure.

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KathyinMich-

In fact, the church doesn't even follow its own dogma, so why in the world would I consider doing so?

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KathyinMich-

I'l also add that, during its existance, the church has tried to stifle man's understanding and knowledge, waged wars against those who believe differently, operated brothels, and a list of other acts way too long to detail here to the extent that the church only has credibility for those who never outgrew the need to believe in fairy tales.

[susanhelit]

Kathy - forgiveness maybe, after repentance - which is nowhere near right now. Dismissing the lawsuits out of forgiveness is like letting a murderer go free because we're supposed to forgive him. Forgiveness does not erase the immense debt the church owes to those innocents it destroyed.

[susanhelit]

The perpetrators of this horrorific sin, this crime against innocence are not as much the pedophiles, as those who AIDED them to more children, sheltered them, coddled them, nurtured them, protected them from law enforcement. And that's who the lawsuit is against.

The Vatican isn't spending all it's money helping poor orphans or whatever - they've got treasures, castles (one of which has been given as a home and reward to one of the prime bishops involved in the @#@#%@# coverup!) - let them sell that to pay for counselling and help and some feeble reimbursement to the people they've hurt so deeply, here and around the world (we're not the only country where the pedophile priests were sheltered and had their way with children).

Nope, people mad about this aren't Catholic bashers - a Catholic basher IMHO would hardly be as upset as a Catholic would be about this happening - if you're a basher, it just fits what you already think. Those poor souls who believed in the church - they're the ones who are most furious about this, who I'd expect to be hardest on those who turned THEIR church into a sanctuary for pedophiles and their supporters.