Comments on: 2 Boys Die, Mimicking Saddam Hanging

10-Year-Old In Texas And 9-Year-Old In Pakistan

[gmond]

Yep, the criminal in this case is television news. The criminals in other cases have been talk shows, reality shows, sports, movies, video games, music and dance. Just ban everything and everyone will be just fine.

[jimibear]

WHAT AN ******** OF A KID !!!! HE WAS DUMB AS HIS PARENTS. THE LORD GIVETH AND THE LORD TAKETH MORONS.

LOL Elgraz ... perhaps the most pithy and to the point comment of the day.

[jimibear]

Ecuadoriana,

I'm with you. And I'm glad you took my ribbing in good part. I'm a (legal and permanent) resident alien myself (Brit by birth). My dad's gotten his citizenship, but he was born in Ireland.

All these a$$holes who complain about "those people coming here and ruining our country" should shut up and let the Cherokees, Sioux, Choctaw, Navajos, Mohicans, Crow, etc. complain. They are the ONLY people in this country with a right to complain. After all, you can't have a truer definition of illegal immigration than invading and conquering a country at gunpoint and by biological genocide with infected blankets.

Oh, but that's ok because white people did it ... right? God help us.

[elgraz]

WHAT AN ******** OF A KID !!!! HE WAS DUMB AS HIS PARENTS. THE LORD GIVETH AND THE LORD TAKETH MORONS.

[ecuadoriana]

jimibear wrote: "Ecuadoriana, why should we listen to you...you "must be illegal"

I can take the ribbing. I was born on US soil, but I am not one to go screaming "This is My country!" just because I was born here. (Does that mean that if you are born in the back of an ambulance then you automatically own it?). I was lucky to be born here, I have a lot of privledges that other parts of the world do not offer. But that doesn't make me entitled. With all privledge comes responsibility & I have a responsibility to appreciate, respect & not take for granted all that this country has. I also respect where others are coming from, knowing that no matter how hard I may have it some days, some people live worse off every day. My Irish grandmother always said "I cried because I had no shoes until I met the man who had no feet."

My husband was born in Ecuador & is a US citizen. He pays taxes, owns a business, has a degree in engineering, donates to charities, takes care of his family. But some people seem to think that his brown skin & accent are an invitation to insult him. They just hate seeing a brown guy be so successful.

[jimibear]

Ecuadoriana, why should we listen to you? After all, with a name like that, you "must be illegal" ... ;-)

I'm teasing, of course. Good points, actually. You can't make your kid into "The Boy In the Plastic Bubble", unless you want him to grow up to be John Travolta.

Or something. Anyone else remember that movie, btw? Caffeine is making me silly ...

[ecuadoriana]

jimibear, that was a true comment you made: "...we have plenty of homegrown idiots". Exactly! People love pointing the finger & blaming everyone else for their woes when the real cause of their troubles are right in their mirrors! Legal status doesn't determine intellegence or common sense.

[ecuadoriana]

By the way, mdc76082, I can not believe that you're a parent. That's why you speak so foolishly. Are you suggesting that a parent never leave a child alone in another room of the house? If so, you are living in fantasy land. Are the parents supposed to bring the kids into the bathroom with them every time they need to go? Is mom never allowed to have a shower alone? Do you really expect that the kids will hang around the kitchen while the parent is preparing dinner? Are the kids never allowed to be in their room alone?

A child, of any age (even an adult for that matter!), in a split second can get hurt- from a trip on the carpet, a slip on a wet floor, reaching for a toy on a high shelf, a tumble down the stairs... That is a fact of life & parents can only do so much to make their homes safe & to teach their kids how to be safe.

Responsible parents do check on their children periodically. But a 10 yr old alone in the bathroom, for legitimate business, can slip on the bath rug & smash his head on the edge of the toilet. Does that make the parent irresponsible for letting the kid go to the bathroom alone? Get real.

The real criminal here is television- & any parent who uses it as a babysitter (whether they are legal or not) is doing their child a disservice.

[jimibear]

further, I think both r_Bayless & Amerigirl have good points about parenting; yes, it's important to shield your kids from seeing the nastiest of things when you can, but it's also important to educate them. If you shield them from too much, they will be in for a very rude awakening when they leave the nest, and will have no tools to deal with that.

The "we have to protect the children" attitude has gone to ridiculous and hysterical levels in this country, with a public outcry for governmental action at every turn. Instead of expecting someone else to censor the world so no Big Nasties will be seen by your kid, why not do your job as a parent - keep away from them what you think is truly inappropriate, but educate them to the existence of threats and problems and teach them how best to minimize the danger.

The world is not user-friendly. Kids need to be taught to understand that.

[ecuadoriana]

mdc76082, why do you assume they are illegal? That is a closed minded & racist comment. People apply for & receive "legal" status (legal residency, work visas, citizenship) all the time! Just because someone is going back to their birth country for burial doesn't mean they are here illegally. And if they are, so what? What does that have to do withthe article? You only focused on "Guatamala" & assumed "illegal".

[jimibear]

Amerigirl, you seem a person of unusual insight and humility, and unafraid to look harshly but honestly even at yourself. Those are rare traits, and I commend you. If you live your life as you present it here, then science enabling you to have your daughters has done a good thing, in my opinion.

[jimibear]

richhong,

Actually, some discarding of the luxuries and conveniences we surround ourselves with would be a very good thing, emotionally, physically, intellectually and spiritually.

We've become a fat, unhealthy, spoiled, unhappy, lazy, ignorant and self-centered bunch of nitwits due to our culture of convenience.

It's not the lower classes holding us back, true. In fact, one of the reasons the "most qualified" don't breed as much as the less educated, etc is that they wait or avoid having kids so that both mom & dad can work to maintain the lifestyle they have been conditioned to expect. People who don't have that lifestyle to maintain make do with what they need and have children.

[agnim]

Now that the mainstream media is getting into the macabre business, MAYBE WE WILL NO SEE MANIAC MUSLIMS CUTTING AMERICAN HEADS AS THEY WOULD THOSE OF COMMON FARM ANIMALS?

OR MAYBE WE ARE WARMING UP TO FINALLYT SEE THE BODY BAGS OF AMERICANS WHO HAVE WASTED THEIR LIVES IN THE IRAQI HELL HOLE ON BEHALF OF AN INSANE WARMONGER?

[testit2]

Wow, quick censorship CBS on what I can assure you was a very seriously intended comment at 2:19pm.

[richhong]

To rbayless:

Actually, it is not compassion that has stopped "survival of the fittest", it is our ability to control environmental stresses. Automobiles mean that we don't have to have stamina as walkers to survive, air conditioners and heaters mean that we don't have to endure temperature extremes. Supermarkets mean that we don't have to hunt.

So from a purely scientific, Darwinian, perspective, the greatest impediment to "survival of the fittest" is the not the lower classes, but the upper classes. The well-off, through having access to the "finer things" in life, can survive without having to endure.

If you REALLY want Darwinism, force society to discard the luxuries that allow us to shape the world around us.

Is that what you want?

[michaure]

i agree with you testit2 .

what happened to freedom of speech? DOn't like it DON"T READ IT PEOPLE!

[testit2]

Sorry, I just feel that strongly about Texas and how much it's people have done to destroy this country over the last decade.

[timberagain]

The obscene, heartless, nasty comment on the part of testit2 at 02:19 pm, Jan 04, 2007
has been reported.

cole1975

i hope i did not offend you. that was not my intention. My point was, we cannot be with our children all the time. We cannot protect them from everthing. we can teach them to protect themselves. we can teach them to make good choices when we are not around. Even if we are the stay at home parents who visit the school ALL the time,we cannot keep our kids in view 100% of the time. We can teach them 'street smarts' though. Of course i believe some level of monitoring is necessary. I also think if we do not educate children, they are destined to fail because we cannot always see them.

r_bayless

you know, my husband has has this conversation with me before. I feel bad about it, but the survival of the fittest has ceased and we are paying the price for it in many ways.

Hitler aside-because i know it was just an example- we are not letting those die that should naturally die. We do allow mentally retarded people to give birth.

I'm not trying to sound mean and I feel bad about everything I'm writing, but...

some family trees shouldn't continue and invitro has allowed them. Personally, my daughters were both high risk pregnancies and if left up to nature alone, i would not have had them. The truth isn't always an easy pill to swallow.