Comments on: Report: Race Gap In U.S. Persists

Income, Education, Home Ownership Disparities Remain Between Whites, Blacks, Hispanics

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by olebd November 14, 2006 3:13 PM EST
Oh...and the media sure doesn't help by showing gaster rap videos by ex-cons and/or drug pushers with all their bling that they got for putting down some negative spewing rhymes over sampled music tracks.

Also, success doesn't work if you are spending what you DO have to wear all the latest, greatest and most expensive clothes and jewelery. You're just making somebody else richer. Define who you are and be yourself.
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by perception5 November 14, 2006 3:08 PM EST
There's a reason why the most "Democrat" city in American have elected Republicans for the past 12 years and that's because "they" made a difference. New York City is a great place again with "low crime" and "great schools". Meanwhile the DEMs base, black Americans, continue to suffer greatly in American cities that for decades will only elect "DEMs", all these cities have the same issue.... high crime and poor POOR schools. Republicans can't reach these city schools because the local papers like the Washington Post, Baltimore Sun, New York Times have for decades protected their pals the DEMs......... Nothing will change for our poor black population until they decide to vote for a party that's interested in "security" and "strong city schools"........ facts are there for everyone to see...... a history of failure in our big cities because the folks are brain washed by the "newspapers" to vote for the candidate with a "D" behind their name......... sad and shameful.........
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by olebd November 14, 2006 2:57 PM EST
It boils down to discipline and taking responsibility.

As Bill Cosby has said. You have got to break the cycle of the way you were raised. Don't have babies so young, pay attention in school, get a good education no matter what. Stay away from gangs, drugs and alcohol. Once you have children, take responsibility for them. BE there for your children. Don't expect anything from anybody.

It's not the fault of any other race. That is an excuse to do nothing.
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by wpope11 November 14, 2006 2:24 PM EST
Is there racism in America? Of course. But this cannot be an excuse for laziness and lack of discipline. The Irish, the Catholics, and even of course the Asians, and many others have been victims of discrimination. Why, most of the early colonists came to the New World because they were discrimated against in the old. The Black person in America has more rights and oppurtunities than his kinsman do even now in his home continent of Africa. African-American leaders need to stop blaming their problems on America and other Americans, and start encouraging their race to take advantage of the many oppurtunities this nation gives. I challenge them to give me the name of one country where they would have a better opputunity for success.
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by plsthink November 14, 2006 2:22 PM EST
"Can anyone suggest why Asian Americans do so well?" - Nothing is 100% of course, but a generalization...I live in Silicon Valley where great number of adult Asians are engineers and when I converse with Asian Americans, it shows that they value and respect more in almost all aspects of life. They have the patience of working hard towards their goal rather than most of us looking for a get-rich schemes and the attitude of entitlement. It may sound simple, but obviously they have applied it.
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by kalatur November 14, 2006 2:13 PM EST
Agnim,

You give an interesting comparison of Chinese and American societies. But my question had to do with Chinese-American citizens. Why do more of them go to college than whites? Whey they earn more, on average, than whites? And finally, once we answer those questions, how do the answers apply to the same disparities involving Blacks?
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by Syndicate November 14, 2006 2:12 PM EST
I want this problem fixed I don't want to "Buy them out". What is wrong with black people? There lazy. Why are they lazy? Because we told them for so long it doesn't matter how hard you work it doesn't matter how hard you study I'm never going to let you advance and if we need a scape goat we will hunt you down and hang you from a tree. That is the root of the problem. The problem manifest itself in our day and time as poverty, crime and drug use. The only solution is eductaion.
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by Syndicate November 14, 2006 2:01 PM EST
Asians do well because of the tight nit family structure. The women tend to be dominated by the men so divorce is probably rarer thus less broken homes. Its the number of broken homes. Of all the people I have known the worst came from broken homes.
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by lestb35 November 14, 2006 2:00 PM EST
CBScrash, I'm so frigging sick and tired of hearing about it, let's just make blacks the chosen race and set them all up for life supporting them in whatever way they want. They will never have to lift a frigging finger and can be fat and happy forever. There done. Now can we please shut up about the poor black people.
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by Syndicate November 14, 2006 1:50 PM EST
Blacks continue to suffer the abuse that was heaped on them after the civil war. First they were never educated. Then they were denied an education. Then they were given a token education. finaly the schools were segregated and they were given an equal opurtunity to an education. Blacks have failed to capitilize on the education process and are falling behind. I beleve it is parenting and I think a higher number of black homes are broken. Race is not the issue here it is cultural. Blacks have been the culture that has been opressed until very recently. It is ignorant to expect a people who have been abused to rebound instantly. We should have programs to help go into poor regions black or not and help educate the kids. An educated child can do anything in America.
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by lestb35 November 14, 2006 1:49 PM EST
Given the booming economy the past decade, I'd have to conclude that poverty may be a choice. And maybe not that bad of one. We struggle enlessly wiht the rising costs of property taxes,sales tax, healthcare costs, and gas. I've often said, that flying below the radar may actually be less stressful. I know people who have gotten subsidized rent, food stamps, free heallthcare, and free college for their kids. It seems less stressful than the bottom of the middleclass. And frankly, I'm sick and tired of being seen as some priveledged guy because I'm white and own a house and pay my OWN bills.
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by agnim November 14, 2006 1:47 PM EST
kalatur

The reason Asians do well is simple.

Thousands of years of experience with huge bureaucracies in a state of relative FREEDOM of its citizens allowed the Asians to cultivate very effective and structured social systems.

Which government in the west could today, or any time in the near future, manage so skillfully a population of 1.3 BILLION citizens as the Chinese are doing?

The US has one billion less citizens than China. And yet the US imprisons a greater proportion of its citizens in the supposed 'land of the free'.

Enslaving, handicapping, and excluding the Black population to this day has created a serious social situation for the US.

Citizens who have not been FREE to participate in the society, naturally are not going to be afforded the opportunities to progress.
However, the institutionalized 'lack of Black progress' is precisely what has historically been the aim of the US vis-a-vis its Black population especially: Keep them down and keep them out!

The Chinese, say, do not have the kind of serious division of its society even though there are 56 different ethnic groups recognized in China.

Upward mobility, progress and advancements are more assured in non-racist societies. Unfortunately, for many generations now the US has not been one of those kinds of society.
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by haneyr-2009 November 14, 2006 1:24 PM EST
You want to find the real reason for disparity in income levels, look to the beginning of our welfare handouts. Race has nothing to do with it. Every person who stays on welfare will never be making the same amount as the 'median income' level. Nor should they. Welfare was not meant as a life style or heritage. But certain politicians keep telling people that they 'deserve' the free ride and not to work for it. Sounds an awful lot like someone is buying votes with public funds.

Correct me if I am wrong but is there any welfare housing in Hillary, Nancy or Teds neighborhoods. Didn't Hillary and Billary send their kid to a private upscale school using public funds? But not allow working or welfare parents the same choice?

I am not saying Republicans are above all this but at least the Democrats shouldn't get a free ride on their greater hypocrisy.
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by cathaleen November 14, 2006 1:22 PM EST
I think the time has come to step away from this blame game. Blacks and whites today have to struggle. Black's have much greater opportunities today than years before. There are millions of dollar in scholarships for minorities.
If they don't take advantage of this, then that is their fault and is not because of any discrimination. Once people stop blaming other for their failures, they can move on and become successful in their own right.
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by kalatur November 14, 2006 1:21 PM EST
Maybe we should ask why Asian Americans perform better than Whites. If we can answer that, then maybe the same explanation applies to White versus black performance. Can anyone suggest why Asian Americans do so well?
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by grumpas November 14, 2006 12:43 PM EST
Surprise! Surprise! The Robber Baron Republican's couldn't possibly have anything to do with the large gap! Why any working person out there votes for these people is mindboggling! But, millions of them do! They gleefully slit their own throats to keep this bunch of thugs in office!
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