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CourtWatch: The President And Congress Should Set Up Bipartisan Panel To Understand Why Torture Occurred, If It Reached Goals

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by rocketjl April 16, 2009 7:26 AM EDT
Even as far back as WWII there have been these 'nuts' who sit back and claim to be the watchdogs of 'everyone else'. The **** tortured and murdered US and Allied service personnel and many civilians. The Army was able to try some of them and execute those found guilty. Now the terrorists are killing people around the world, regardless of who they are. Islamic terrorists claim 'their version' of their justification to kill everybody is right. Still other Islamic people say they disagree. Now the US nuts want to give the bad guys a free hand. Whose side are they on????
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by kesac4650 April 15, 2009 8:52 PM EDT
The author seems to be insisting that he knows torture was committed.
Our media has tried to confuse phsychological efforts to gain verifiable information, with torture.
Torture leaves the victime broken in body or mind. We on the other hand may have dicomforted someone, or even scared them into spilling info that saved American lives, but left the person interogated in full possesion of every mental and physical faculty they possessed prior to being questioned.
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by opedanderson April 15, 2009 12:01 PM EDT
This whole debate is stupid.

The only true value of torture is showing potential enemies that torture MIGHT happen if they are caught. What is learned from torture is mostly irrelevant.

Every Muslim out there now knows that any hint of support to AQ or the Jihad MIGHT result in torture at the hands of the USA
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by brianbwb-2009 April 15, 2009 11:48 AM EDT
"...Torture away. If it saves one American life than it was worth it. You can't win a war by playing by the rules when the opponent does not follow the same rules." Posted by chenz66

The problem with that, in this case, is that it hasn't been proven to have saved one life, when asked for an example, the Bush klan usually responded with "that's a secret." Only a true sucker would believe anything they say, after knowing they lied and wasted lives in the first place.

Also it makes us no different than those we condemn, when in fact it was Bush and his lies that sent our soldiers to kill innocents, or be caught and tortured in the process, and for no other reason than his personal profit.

You sadistic torture-bots always ignore the fact that we had no business even being where our soldiers could be captured. in the case of Iraq, they never attacked us, we are the ones in the wrong.
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by chenz66 April 15, 2009 11:35 AM EDT
Torture away. If it saves one American life than it was worth it. You can't win a war by playing by the rules when the opponent does not follow the same rules.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 15, 2009 4:26 AM EDT
" THE US HAS NEVER........NEVER FOUGHT A RELIGIOUS WAR. THAT TYPE OF WAR IS THE MOST BRUTAL AND MOTIVATING." Posted by krisinal

The US never posited a purely religious motive for it's hostilities against others, (even if they did give free mouth to the Islamophobes out there which they then pimped to stir up blind, reasonless hatred against Muslim nations) but since those others felt it their right to resist and fight back, and since they felt that right was granted by their respective deities, several became religious wars.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 15, 2009 4:18 AM EDT
" OUR.....OUR enemies...I know how to spell" Posted by krisinal

Good, now learn how to think.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 15, 2009 4:16 AM EDT
Posted by isidorordl

So, since you understand, I am moved to ask, what are you doing personally to help us bring the Bush klan to justice?

Posted by krisinal

Yes there are people very motivated to resist US hegemony, and inhumanity towards other nations. You write as if you believe that the US has some kind of right to harm those people, but that they do not have the right to get angry about it.

As was composed by the great George Clinton, "If you don't like the effect, then don't produce the cause".

Posted by tincup356

It also won't do his lifespan any favors, there is enough money being corrupted to have Obama killed, and some sucker neo-kkk would gladly take the fall. He needs us solidly behind him if he is going to act, and apparently he hasn't seen enough of that yet.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 15, 2009 4:09 AM EDT
"Severe injury" intentionally inflicted is the standard set by the Convention on Torture. That may be a standard too difficult for prosecutors to meet." Posted by maistir

Torture, according to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, is:

? ...Any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a male or female person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions."

Did you see the words "...severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental.." in there?

I did.

So, you were saying...?
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by schotzy81 April 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
<snore>

Granted, the left has their socialist dream team in charge of the House, Senate, and White House, but do you really want to usher in these Stalinistic inquisitions? To anyone not blinded by leftist ideology, it's clear this is nothing more than a continuation of BDS.
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