Comments on: Not Your Father’s Court

Andrew Cohen Reviews The Decisions And Looks At Trends From The Past Supreme Court Term

[elz523]

The dumbing down of America can best be seen in the right wing of the United States Supreme Court. We let them take away our individual rights everyday. Elect McCain and get more fools like Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito.

[jbaker314]

To JTait2 -

Experience? Hillary and Bill? Surely you jest?

While thousands of internet startups were being created, with no assets, no business plans, and often times nothing more than a mailbox, Bill had the SEC sit on its thumbs, because all of those internet startups made the economy look good.

Then the whole shell game fell apart as he was leaving office.

Over $1,500,000,000,000 disappeared. Millions of investors lost staggering amounts of money. Many of my friends lost their retirement savings, and in many cases, their homes.

Bill knew what was going on, but looking good was more important than protecting the public.

[jbaker314]

To sparks224 -

Perhaps you would care to offer at least a minimal legal argument in support of your position?

Saying that the court''s decision has no basis in law and $4.00 may get you a cup of coffee at StarBucks.

It won''t get you anywhere in a court of law.

[balto_babs]

...All we have to do is let it be known that Hillary backers are NOT going to vote for Obama under any condition. Thats all it takes.....
Posted by JTait2 at 02:42 PM : Jul 03, 2008

Jtait2 -
I understand that Hillary''s supporters are frustrated, BUT your "hold my breath till I turn blue attitude" is so self-defeating. Did you throw temper tantrums as a child?
Obama and Clinton have almost identical platforms. If you really backed Hillary on the issues she holds dear HOW can you either "not vote at all" or "vote for McCain?"
Hillary has championed healthcare for all, Obama proposal is similar, McCain nada.
Hillary & Obama want to end Iraqi war. McCain status
quo.
Hillary & Obama strongly support women''s right esp choice and equal pay. McCain has promised to have Roe V. Wade overturned and believes unequal pay is just the result of women being less educated. WHAT?

Personally I''d like to see Hillary on the Supreme court someday.

[sparks224]

jbaker314,
The Bush v Gore decision had no basis in law whatsoever. The U.S. Supreme Court had no business getting involved. Although it is true that counting the votes would have harmed George W Bush.

On the bright side, the installation of this neo-con regime has generated such a huge backlash that the RepubliCons will lose big in November.
End of story.

[jbaker314]

To balto_babs -

No, I am neither an elected politician nor an oppointed public official, nor am I associated with the current administration in any way.

I am ONLY making the point that, from a purely LEGAL point of view, the US Supreme Court issued a correct ruling.

Whether the consequences of that ruling were good or bad for the country is another subject entirely, and in many minds, is highly subjective.

Certainly, I find a lot to object to in the actions of the current administration.

At the same time, I have to wonder whether Al Gore would have handled the 9-11 attacks any better.

In any case, the topic at this moment is the correctness or incorrectness of the US Supreme Court ruling in Bush v. Gore.

Again, from a purely LEGAL point of view, I believe that the court made the correct rulig.

[balto_babs]

CORRECTION TO MY POST--
...help in Florida was NOT so effective...

[balto_babs]

... However, pursuant to the 14th amendment, they have to do it in a consistent manner, affording all citizens an equal voice in the process.
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Posted by jbaker314 at 09:59 AM : Jul 03, 2008

From the lawyerly tone of your comments it sounds like you, %u201Cjbaker314%u201D, MAY actually be former Secretary of State James Baker.

If so, I would think that 20/20 hindsight may have changed your perspective on Dubya? Maybe you wish your help in Florida was so effective. Bush lied to get us into the Iraq War and his legacy will haunt the US for generations.

Dubya''s %u201Cdismissive%u201D response to the Iraq Study Group%u2019s report is especially frustrating because the US would be out of there by now.

[nevminer735]

I wonder how the Suprene Court is going to rule with a Democratic Administration and Congress. Is it possible to impeach S.C. justices? Could there be a Constitutional Amemdment passed in 32 states approving term limits for the Justices. Hmmmm something to think about.

[jbaker314]

To taxguydave -

Yes, they do.

However, pursuant to the 14th amendment, they have to do it in a consistent manner, affording all citizens an equal voice in the process.

This is where Florida got into trouble.

By trying to use differing recount standards in different counties, they sought to deny to different voters the equal protection of the law.

[perceptions5]

Attorney Andrew Cohen ........thanks for your typicial liberal point-of-view.

Cohen your tainted everytime we see your name next to a "fictional story" like this one we know your going to "attack" the GOP and give a "pass" to your left-wing hero''s on the court.

Like CBS you have zero creditability left......sad

[taxguydave]

Baker, you''re wrong. The Constitution is very clear that the states have sole power to choose their electors. It''s simply not a Federal matter.

[irliberal]

Very much like it! Religious extremists are very dangerous to a free society; all they want to do is control us; it makes no difference what religion, it''''s scary as h/e/l/l/.

Posted by aldon61 at 04:26 PM

Right on!

[jbaker314]

The US Supreme Court decision in 2000 was correct, whether or not we are all happy with the results.

It was clear from the proceedings in Florida that the Florida courts were going to continue to change the recount rules, using different recount rules in different counties, and recount, over and over, until they obtained the partisan result they were looking for.

The Gore crowd worked overtime to try to find a set of recount rules, again, with different recount rules in different counties, that would award Gore the election.

When it finally was taken to the US Supreme Court, the court correctly ruled that using different recount rules in different counties violated the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.

The followed that decision by ruling the it was not possible to conduct a constitutional recount by December 12th, set by Florida statute as the day by which the electors to the Electoral College must be selected.

The case was then remanded to the Florida Supreme Court.

Gore knew he could not persuade the court to define a set of consistent rules and conduct a statewide recount in the time allotted, so he dropped the case.

The one positive result has been that many States have worked to ensure that uniform voting methods and recount rules are now in effect throughout their respective jurisdictions.

End of story.

[sparks224]

The Bush v Gore decision exposed this court for what it really is.

There is no more Supreme Court in the United States.

[thgdriver]

Andrew Cohen Reviews

The article above is laughable. Obviously Cohen is a Dimwitocrat thats still crying eight years after Gore took the 2000 election to the court and lost. LOL.

[alanrobisch]

Very much like it! Religious extremists are very dangerous to a free society; all they want to do is control us; it makes no difference what religion, it''''s scary as h/e/l/l/.


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Posted by aldon61 at 04:26 PM : Jul 02, 2008
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you are full of empty headed nonsense

[cyberus-2009]

Its like I''ve always said, we need an amendment ... Supreme Count justices should serve a *SINGLE* 10-20 year term not dodder into senility waiting for a president they like to come in to replace them.

[aldon61]

Too much power in the hands of the religious extremists in this country. Kind of like Saudi Arabia and Iran.


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Posted by noloyalisti at 04:21 PM : Jul 02, 2008

Very much like it! Religious extremists are very dangerous to a free society; all they want to do is control us; it makes no difference what religion, it''s scary as h/e/l/l/.

[noloyalisti]

If Bush and Cheney are criminally indicted, can we void the Supreme Court people who were appointed during their term? Probably not because the spineless Congress let these activist judges in. Too much power in the hands of the religious extremists in this country. Kind of like Saudi Arabia and Iran.