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by USauto January 28, 2011 11:40 PM EST
Uh-oh! if everyone had better <a href="http://www.qslaw.com">gun laws</a> for that ... bad things wouldn't happen!
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by truthreporter January 28, 2011 7:47 AM EST
These incidents and the tragedy in Tucson have focused new attention on the need to keep guns away from those with a history of violence or mental illness. Today, the families of shooting victims demanded Washington enforce existing laws. CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric reports.

The need to keep guns away from those with a history of violence or mental illness. This is what Katie Couric reported and Mayor Bloomberg of New York City echoes.

Let's take a group of people and single them out and see if they should, as a group, be able to carry firearms?

A higher rate of suicide than the general population. A higher rate of domestic violence than the general population. A higher rate of alcoholism than the general population. A higher rate of acts of violence which were swept under the carpet and hushed up than the general population. Marital discord, drinking, suicide, excessive force brought upon by employment related stress, post traumatic stress disorder, untreated psychiatric symptoms.

The group of people I am talking about all carry guns. If their employment assistance people were able to talk, they would tell you tales of horror and untreated alcoholism, drug use, domestic violence, stress related (psychiatric) leaves of absence, thoughts and fantasies of murder and mayhem. I know. I have spoken to many of these EAP workers. I have worked with multitudes of this group of people for over three and a half decades, heard their stories, seen them getting away with psychiatric symptoms, car accidents, domestic violence and more - all because of the group to which they belong. Most of these people are New York City Police.

Yet, the very same people outside the police departments with histories of violence, mental illness and substance use histories are being labeled so as not to be able to carry firearms while the police still are armed.

I've been to weddings of police officers where officers in tuxedos, carrying concealed weapons got stinking drunk and after the wedding drove home. I know of police officers who have been involved in motor vehicle incidents where they totaled their cars repeatedly and fellow officers have towed the wrecked car away and hushed up the incident - over and over again. One officer in particular whose wife will not allow him to buy a new car and she purchases only "junkers" for him to drive because of all the covered-up wrecks he has been in.

I have met and seen wives of police officers being treated for battery and domestic violence, covered with black and blue marks, broken noses and bones where no charges were filed and if they were filed, those accusations were withdrawn.

I have worked in treatment centers where a police officer being treated for cocaine use had a chart which only mentioned alcohol because cocaine use is illegal. I have been to Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous meetings which are only open to members of law enforcement (as an invited speaker). I have interfaced with Employee Assistance Professionals from the NYPD, NY Housing Authority Police, NY Transit Police helping get their members into treatment.

Yet, I don't see Mayor Mike Bloomberg addressing these people with psychiatric problems (mental illness), histories of violence and substance use, who as a group have higher incidences of suicide, alcoholism, domestic violence than the general population who all carry weapons.
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by COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD January 25, 2011 7:38 PM EST
ENFORCE CURRENT LAWS, OF COURSE! BUT THEN, IS IT NOT UP TO YOU AND ME TO FORCE THE ISSUE UPON OUR LEGISLATORS, AND OUR PRESIDENT, TO ADDRESS THE ENTIRE SET OF DYNAMICS AND ISSUES CONCERNING GUN LAWS?
WHILE PUBLIC SAFETY IS AN ULTIMATE CONCERN, SHOULD WE NOT REMEMBER THE REASON THE FOUNDING FATHERS INCLUDED THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IN THE CONSTITUTION? WAS THIS NOT PENNED AND RATIFIED SHORTLY AFTER THE PERSECUTION BY THE BRITISH AND OUR AMERICAN REVOLUTION? WAS IT NOT TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM A ROGUE AND UNJUST GOVERNMENT THAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOVE THE NEED OF ONE CITIZEN TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM ANOTHER CITIZEN?
IF WE REMEMBER HOW ROGUE RUMSFELD AND CHENEY WERE WITH MILITARY ISSUES, DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, SHOULDN'T WE EASILY ENVISION JUST HOW READILY SUCH A GROUP COULD MANIPULATE OUR MILITARY AND STAGE A MILITARY COUP AGAINST THE UNITED STATES? IT IS HAPPENING ELSEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD REGULARLY, ISN'T IT? UNFORTUNATELY, HAVE WE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT THE U.S. IS NOT AS INSULATED FROM WORLD EVENTS AS WE USED TO BE. IS IT POSSIBLE, THAT THE ULTIMATE THREAT TO THE U.S. IS FROM WITHIN? IS THAT NOT ULTIMATE REASON WHY THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ARMS?
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by dodge3500 January 25, 2011 7:12 AM EST
You know i jsut do not understand why my guns dont kill people , I for some reason seam to think its because there used for hunting .THE POLITICAN seam to try to make people THINK GUNS is a bad thing. They do not relize its not the GUN OR THE BULETT. If you take guns from responsibale people and leave them in the hands of the wrong people then how would we defend our selfs if neede to . Mybe what we need is a stiffer pentaly for people that use a GUN to brake the law like , robberies , killing s , shootings. THE GUN IS NOT A PROBLEM I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GUN GROW LEGS AND FINGERS AND WORK BY IT SELF.
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by gruven13777 January 24, 2011 11:09 PM EST
It's really amazing that people actually believe gun laws will stop criminals from getting guns.
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by troutfishyman January 24, 2011 9:06 PM EST
by vageorge January 24, 2011 7:34 PM EST
I have carried for over 30 years and will not leave home without a weapon. I pray that I will not have to use it but I will to protect my family and other innocent people from harm.





Don't you trust that God will protect you?
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by Archie_Clements January 24, 2011 8:57 PM EST
So the nutcase in Arizona flunked an Army drug test. Is the Army supposed to report this to the background check system? There are thousands of people every day who flunk employment drug tests for a variety of reasons, are they to be reported to the background check system? If a doctor knows you are hooked on painkillers, does he have to report you to the background check people? If a woman like Katie is diagnosed by her shrink as being a megalomaniac, does he report her? Where does the reporting stop in this brave new world?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hand-wringing Progressives have passed law after law ensuring that private medical data be kept private. Have Mike and Katie talked to all the liberal pals, and decided we should change this? Or is this article a piece of feel good fluff?
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by pancho100 January 24, 2011 8:29 PM EST
"So, you think the laws that currently exist are enough," Couric asked. "Or do new laws need to be passed?"

"You can always have more laws, but if you don't enforce the ones on the books, there's no reason to go and have additional laws "

This is the entire problem with this country----we dont enforce ALL laws,
we pick and choose the ones to enforce. Currently we have 15 million illegals in this country and have not really enforced the immigration laws and Nappy has even told ICE to back off!!!! Try sneaking into Mexico and see what happens to you!!!

One American's post is absolutely right on!!!! vageorge is also right on!!!

How about we get rid of all the lying politician/lawyers and judges?
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by thanksgreed January 24, 2011 8:24 PM EST
33 rounds in 6 seconds....now I am MAN !
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by propitiation January 24, 2011 8:17 PM EST
New York is #1 in Abortion!
Last Sunday was "Sanctity of Life" Sunday commemorating the 1973 Roe v Wade decision.
34 people per day die from gun violence?
1,200,000 people per year, or 3,288 people per day...AND NOBODY DOES IT LIKE NEW YORK CITY!!!!
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