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Former VP Had CIA Conceal Program from Congress; New Calls for Investigation of Bush-Era Torture

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by Stormy500 July 13, 2009 4:34 AM EDT
See, this is what I am talking about. We are Democrats who voted for Obama and are very pleased at his performance now at just 6 months into his presidency. Many of us were Republicans in our lives and many of us still vote locally for a Republican if we believe he/she is best for our district, our state, and our country. But here now we have to be lumped in with these over-the-top individuals who call for "executions" and other absurd notions. Just as ridiculous and offensive as the ultra-right and their angry calls for vengeance and McVeigh-type ramblings of victimization and revenge...nutty and un-helpful for our country-- all of them.
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by nextgenman09 July 13, 2009 4:27 AM EDT
Translation: Lets just all forget about the immoral and illegal activities of Cheney.
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by blitzder July 13, 2009 4:12 AM EDT
You know, the American public is being punished severely instead, by a world wide boycott on Americans, just look at the state of the economy, now why do you think that happened, people across the globe, do not want to deal with America, with pictures of GITMO and Iraq plastered on the worlds front pages.
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by babooph July 13, 2009 3:49 AM EDT
The propaganda system will "investigate" & find some army sgt has been responsible for all the criminal activity.It worked in the prison torture "story"& the brainwashed public has been conditioned from childhood in the schools & churches to be good little believers.
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by tautomer July 13, 2009 3:08 AM EDT
Heck if Congress would take care of business instead of settling old scores we wouldn't be faced with double digit unemployment. Feinstains state of CA is buried under massive deficits and she's worrying about some retired ex-VP. I guess it beats workin for a living!
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by nextgenman09 July 13, 2009 4:27 AM EDT
Translation: Lets just all forget about the immoral and illegal activities of Cheney.
by mick7744 July 13, 2009 3:03 AM EDT
It is ridiculous to say that Bush & Cheney & Co should spend years in prison for their treasonous, but personally immensely profitable crimes against America and the world.

They should only be locked up until such time as they are taken to a place of execution to be put to death in the manner prescribed by law.

I would wish for a creative, painful manner to be employed AFTER they had both been subjected to a few rounds of water boarding to learn the access codes to their offshore accounts, thus ending the current recession.

They stole BILLIONS...and they did it by crawling over the bodies of thousands of young Americans and a million Iraqis.

Having been brain-dead for most of his wastrel existance, Bush probably won't even notice when he gets put down like the murdering, thieving, treasonous dog that he is, but hopefully, Darth Cheney (the rabid dog) will really suffer.

Of course, I don't expect any of this to happen.

I would imagine by now, Obama has some inkling of some of what REALLY happened during those eight long years and rightly fears that the country would be torn asunder if the truth were ever to come out.
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by Stormy500 July 13, 2009 4:34 AM EDT
See, this is what I am talking about. We are Democrats who voted for Obama and are very pleased at his performance now at just 6 months into his presidency. Many of us were Republicans in our lives and many of us still vote locally for a Republican if we believe he/she is best for our district, our state, and our country. But here now we have to be lumped in with these over-the-top individuals who call for "executions" and other absurd notions. Just as ridiculous and offensive as the ultra-right and their angry calls for vengeance and McVeigh-type ramblings of victimization and revenge...nutty and un-helpful for our country-- all of them.
by proudmilvet July 13, 2009 2:49 AM EDT
Ah, Uncle Dick your at it again. Like "Old Man Potter" in the movie It's a Wonderful Life,Still foreclosing homes on widows & orphans!
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by jimgilmorego July 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT
I think the CIA should be investigated for so willingly abiding the Cheny administration's illegal and pernicious practices. The FBI certainly didn't want to be involved in torture and refused to take part in it.

I really detest their "don't blame us we were only following orders" defense.

How far were they willing to go...are there any morales left?
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by Stormy500 July 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT
I was disappointed not to see Senator McCain's comments on this subject mentioned in this article. Did he say something of the effect of "this is just the beginning"? Alot of we Democrats like to hear or read comments made by Republican men and women in Congress who have minds of their own, like John McMain (unless he is running for president) and Chuck Hagel. Sick of this ultra-left and ultra-right garbage.
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by Stormy500 July 13, 2009 12:59 AM EDT
These are very reasonable and rational comments you have made, ttxort. In other words, they won't fly with this group here. (Unfortunately)
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by hungry1968-16 July 13, 2009 12:04 AM EDT
by mccain08nc July 12, 2009 8:19 PM PDT
Don't worry I know how to get rid of great intlectual like hungry.





By posting a lot of unsubstantiated BS, having Hungry shoot it down - for the 100th TIME - and then running away, because he has no logical response to my post.

Yep - he "showed me" alright.
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by carlyt1 July 13, 2009 12:01 AM EDT
Bad weekend of the Bush administration.time for justice. there is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
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by babooph July 12, 2009 11:59 PM EDT
Surely these senators never believed anything that creep ever said about anything at all ?We need some senators less naive than the whaco Christians-oops many of them are.
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by Rubeem July 12, 2009 11:57 PM EDT
Compare Obama's actions already taken and those he has planned (to have Govt. control everything) are frightfully similar to other Socialistic countries such as Canada and Britain - - and their healthcare, for one is just plain awful.
To ibsteve2u, I'd venturre to guess that you have not been around long enough to see how the world really works -- other than what you've learned in college.
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by Rubeem July 12, 2009 11:48 PM EDT
and you really think those two men, caused this all by themselves ?!?!!? Hmmm let's see who held the majority ??
By the way.. you might check out some activities the ACLU support.... ACORN, for one, Media Matters, Huffington Post, and MOST other left-wing groups. They love the hate-mongering that goes on by the left.
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by hungry1968-16 July 12, 2009 11:43 PM EDT
by mccain08nc July 12, 2009 8:19 PM PDT
Hungry good to see you again!

You never answer my question the last 10 times I posted so I will keep asking until you answer it. You told me several times that our prison system is not designed to be a deterrent and punishment system.

So I will ask you again if two people are driving drunk and both have an accident the first person does not injury any one but himself so he gets a heavy fine and loses his license. The second person had the exact same accident and blew the exact same on the breathalyzer but this person had the unfortunate luck of killing his passenger. He now gets 7-10 years in prison for vehicular manslaughter. So how is that not a "Punishment" based on the results of the crime.

I know for an intellectual like you it is hard to answer such a simple question but please do try.






I've answered you each and every time that you've asked this question, and I'm going to keep responding the EXACT SAME way, whether you like the answer or not:

NO - the penal system is NOT a "punishment" system.

It is a system designed to "rehabilitate" the criminal, for assimilation back into society.

Most criminals look at it as "three hots and a cot" - something that they've NEVER had at ANY point in their lives, free medical, education, counseling, etc, etc, etc, as children or as adults.

Tell me how providing people with opportunities and free benefits is "punishment".


I ask you this EVERY TIME you post this nonsense, and all you do is run away.

Why don't you answer me ONE time, instead of "tucking tail" like you always do?
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by hungry1968-16 July 13, 2009 12:04 AM EDT
by mccain08nc July 12, 2009 8:19 PM PDT
Don't worry I know how to get rid of great intlectual like hungry.





By posting a lot of unsubstantiated BS, having Hungry shoot it down - for the 100th TIME - and then running away, because he has no logical response to my post.

Yep - he "showed me" alright.
by prometheus21 July 12, 2009 11:38 PM EDT
There's nothing more revolting and more frightening to a citizen of a democracy then to hear the word "calls from Congress" as some kind of surrogate to "due process from Congress to prosecute as the LAW requires them to".

And considering how much I've heard "calls from Congress" in my GOD DAMNED life-time, THIS HAD FREAKING BETTER BE MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE than that. How the legislative body of our government can IGNORE DUE PROCESS AND EQUAL PROTECTION under the law at the SAME GOD DAMNED TIME and let these CRIMINALS WALK is an INTOLERABLE SHOCK to the life-blood and basic function of any democracy. Which is why ours is wasting slowly but surely away. Well, maybe not slowly.
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by hungry1968-16 July 12, 2009 11:37 PM EDT
by mccain08nc July 12, 2009 8:19 PM PDT
Don't worry I know how to get rid of great intlectual like hungry.







How's that?

By posting nonsense until I walk away shaking my head in disbelief?

That's usually what you do / how it happens.
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by Rubeem July 12, 2009 11:35 PM EDT
When oh when will the previous administration quit being the target for diversionary rhetoric ! ! ! ?? Accept the fact that Obama is the resident-in-chief and quit blaming everyone and everything else on someone else. This whole Cheney/CIA fiasco is only an effort to cover queenie Nancy's hide. The program was "secret" - - but not even elevated past the discussion stage.... but some dems decided to tattle-tale, but by doing so, they themselves showed they were or are not trustworthy to keep top secret, secret and disgraced the trust put in them.
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by cs4466 July 12, 2009 11:22 PM EDT
by mccain08nc July 12, 2009 8:19 PM PDT

Has it occurred to you that it is possible they don't care the slightest bit what you think, one way or the other?

No, I didn't think it had.
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