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Four Arrested for Digging Up Hundreds of Graves to Resell the Plots; Little Consolation for Victims
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- "by thusspokezara July 9, 2009 5:42 PM PDT
What loved ones? If they had had loved ones, the loved ones would have been going to the burial grounds on a regular basis as loved ones usually do to plant flowers and would have noticed when they went to plant to flowers that the graves had been disturbed and they would not have been able to plant the flowers and they would have gone to the front office and said hey the grave of our loved one has been disturbed and we could not plant the flowers."
It will not matter when the defilement has happened, Once it is done there is no going back. The Family loses everything they treasure. You sir/ma'am are to soulless to understand that. - Reply to this comment
- As a civilization, we should steer away from capital punishment for crimes committed.
But, this is a case, where due to the nature of the crime, that it should be considered for capital punishment along with crimes like murder, treason, etcetera. - Reply to this comment
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- You think the disturbance of the dead is worth the cost of a human life? The dead are more sacred than the living. If so then I suppose you could view that as a reward to the living to be put to death. Curious logic.
- To irishWench01
Perhaps if you consider it a theft of property that the victims paid a substantial sum for, and for whom the loss is more than just the money, then it could be considered a capital theft. The price of the gravesite probably constitutes a felony, so for, say 300 felonies the punishment should be....
- brianbwb-2009 ...
I don't discount the severity or the emotional impact of this crime. I do feel that the outrage is a bit over the top with all of the things going on that don't seem to get much of a rise. I see young boys, husbands, fathers, sons dying in a senseless undertaking who receive very little coverage or acknowledgement. I suppose I should blame the press rather than the population because they have more appreciation for the glamour and sensational than the ugliness of everyday happenings.
I will add that I am against capital punishment for crimes that only involve financial or emotional loss. Years ago in a criminal justice class I took, we visited a women's prison in Canon City Colorado. I still remember the shock and disgust I felt upon learning that the majority of women with the longest and harshest sentences wee those that had stolen large amounts of money, commited fraud, passed bad checks habitually or counterfeited payroll checks. Thos ethat had commited assault or murder has much lighter sentences.
This from a population that professes vehemently to value life.
- Better get ol' Al Sharpie and Jassie Jackson here pronto, this is a damn White Conspiracy to discredit the black community.
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- It is ironic some here equate these grave robbers with being liberal, a code word for democrat, guess that them being black is what gives this assumption, but am I the only one whom has noticed on fox & friends how all the anchors are white, but all the GOP strategists whom show up on all the other networks defending the GOP are largely black or non white? The GOP loves money, so they would not fit in a liberal setting, but fit right in with any GOP fund raiser, since motto is love of money, which is the root of all evil according to the bible! Yes its almost comical how the GOP trolls try to spin this as a "liberal issue", but grave robbers and republicans do have the love of money in common, and sadly we all have been robbed by them for their past 8 years of great leadership, leaving us bankrupt, sad and sorry!
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- "A real horror story"? It amazes me to see the outrage over the bodies of the long buried. Where is the outrage of our military losing their limbs, minds and lives almost daily? Where is that outrage, frustration and compassion? And what of the atrocities commited on the living?
Of course the desecration of sacred burial grounds is not a new atrocity. Just ask our early settlers or the Native Americans. Well, that is if you can find their burial site. - Reply to this comment
- Also, did you realize your sentence contained 85 words, with no comma's. That is a mouth full. You must have had steam coming out of your ears?
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- Obviously your comments on "Judge sotomayor" identifies you as a republican, so no surprise here since GOP is famous for avarice, greed, hypocrisy, and claiming to be moral superiors, but your comments here simply prove the fact most republicans lack morality which most decent human beings would be horrified at this desecration of the dead, not a surprise since the GOP ruins us all in the last 8 years of their trickly down theory, grave robbers and GOP do have this in common!
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- Alzo Sprach Zarathustra, If I went into your home and removed everything you cared about threw them into the garbage and sold your house for 'My' profit, would you still call it a 'victimless crime?????
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- Well what if their loved ones lived out of state? All my relatives are buried 1,000's of miles from my home. I will still be ticked even if I didn't get the chance to see them. I see you read my post. My sentiments are still the same, because your heart gets colder by the minute.
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- Going for personal best on being stupid aren't you. What about the people that survived them ?
I wouldn't go to the grave site and say that if I were you. You are liable to get a spade in the teeth. Then tell us how victimless the crime is. - Reply to this comment
- What loved ones? If they had had loved ones, the loved ones would have been going to the burial grounds on a regular basis as loved ones usually do to plant flowers and would have noticed when they went to plant to flowers that the graves had been disturbed and they would not have been able to plant the flowers and they would have gone to the front office and said hey the grave of our loved one has been disturbed and we could not plant the flowers.
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- Well what if their loved ones lived out of state? All my relatives are buried 1,000's of miles from my home. I will still be ticked even if I didn't get the chance to see them. I see you read my post. My sentiments are still the same, because your heart gets colder by the minute.
- Also, did you realize your sentence contained 85 words, with no comma's. That is a mouth full. You must have had steam coming out of your ears?
- "by thusspokezara July 9, 2009 5:42 PM PDT
What loved ones? If they had had loved ones, the loved ones would have been going to the burial grounds on a regular basis as loved ones usually do to plant flowers and would have noticed when they went to plant to flowers that the graves had been disturbed and they would not have been able to plant the flowers and they would have gone to the front office and said hey the grave of our loved one has been disturbed and we could not plant the flowers."
It will not matter when the defilement has happened, Once it is done there is no going back. The Family loses everything they treasure. You sir/ma'am are to soulless to understand that.
- Zara:
You sound like a girlfriend for one of the above suspects? You are calloused beyond belief. I am sure you would be saying the same thing if it was one of your loved ones who was discarded like trash. Sleep well. I hope you have nightmares. - Reply to this comment
- This is essentially a victimless crime. It is not like they held up somebody or socked them over the head with a tire iron. In fact, these four suspects should be applauded for their resourcefulness and intelligence. I am not sure that most of us would have thought of it. I am sure that the judge will go easy on them. Judge Sotomayor would for sure.
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- Zara:
You sound like a girlfriend for one of the above suspects? You are calloused beyond belief. I am sure you would be saying the same thing if it was one of your loved ones who was discarded like trash. Sleep well. I hope you have nightmares.
- Going for personal best on being stupid aren't you. What about the people that survived them ?
I wouldn't go to the grave site and say that if I were you. You are liable to get a spade in the teeth. Then tell us how victimless the crime is.
- Alzo Sprach Zarathustra, If I went into your home and removed everything you cared about threw them into the garbage and sold your house for 'My' profit, would you still call it a 'victimless crime?????
- Obviously your comments on "Judge sotomayor" identifies you as a republican, so no surprise here since GOP is famous for avarice, greed, hypocrisy, and claiming to be moral superiors, but your comments here simply prove the fact most republicans lack morality which most decent human beings would be horrified at this desecration of the dead, not a surprise since the GOP ruins us all in the last 8 years of their trickly down theory, grave robbers and GOP do have this in common!
- "A real horror story"? It amazes me to see the outrage over the bodies of the long buried. Where is the outrage of our military losing their limbs, minds and lives almost daily? Where is that outrage, frustration and compassion? And what of the atrocities commited on the living?
Of course the desecration of sacred burial grounds is not a new atrocity. Just ask our early settlers or the Native Americans. Well, that is if you can find their burial site.
- Obviously this comment was intended to shock and offend, but at the same time, there is a grain of truth in it. The recent idiocy with Michael Jackson's corpse is a prime example of America's death fetish. Funerals are a disgusting, superstitious practice and cemeteries are an obsolete waste of space.
- You are obviously one of those who don't know the difference between moral and immoral. It clearly illustrates a lack of civility and decency. You are quite correct in that most of us would not have thought comitting such an act because most of us simply don't intertain your level of indecency. You may crawl back under your rock now!
- Zara:
