Comments on: Tea Party Protests Rally Against Taxes

Many Spent Independence Day Speaking Out Against Federal Spending

[ubrew12]

Unpleasant fact about wars the U.S. has been involved in:
In WWI, 10% of all deaths were the deaths of noncombatants: civilians.
In WWII, 50% of all deaths.
In Vietnam, 70% of all deaths.
In Iraq, 90% of all deaths.

Those who promote war should be aware of this unpleasant fact, since the trend shows no sign of reversing itself.

[libscrytoo]

by iam4honesty July 4, 2009 5:30 PM PDT
I'm sorry to have to tell you this, Try, but you guys lost. We now have control of two of the three branches of the federal government. Within the next eight years we will also have control of the Judicial branch. We make the rules now. There is nothing you can do about it! So, go ahead and whine. Stomp your feet and bang your heads on the floor. The fact is, America has begun to wake up, and your dinosaur party is irrelevant. Over the past two years millions of conservatives have opened their eyes and decided that they can no longer define themselves as republicans. The number of people in America who are willing to present themselves as republicans is dwindling, depending on the day you check the number bounces between 17% and 21%. Headed for single digits. Keep your current mindset and soon you will be all alone. That's one vote for Palin, huh?

Ok, I really want to know where you are getting your numbers from. I think you are lying to yourself, but then again what else is new? That seems to be the only thing you can do. Considering the fact you have yet to prove this in anything you post. Why should I or anyone else believe you? Your numbers are flawed.

[libscrytoo]

by iam4honesty July 4, 2009 5:30 PM PDT
I'm sorry to have to tell you this, Try, but you guys lost. We now have control of two of the three branches of the federal government. Within the next eight years we will also have control of the Judicial branch. We make the rules now. There is nothing you can do about it! So, go ahead and whine. Stomp your feet and bang your heads on the floor. The fact is, America has begun to wake up, and your dinosaur party is irrelevant. Over the past two years millions of conservatives have opened their eyes and decided that they can no longer define themselves as republicans. The number of people in America who are willing to present themselves as republicans is dwindling, depending on the day you check the number bounces between 17% and 21%. Headed for single digits. Keep your current mindset and soon you will be all alone. That's one vote for Palin, huh?

Ok, I really want to know where you are getting your numbers from. I think you are lying to yourself, but then again what else is new? That seems to be the only thing you can do. Considering the fact you have yet to prove this in anything you post. Why should I or anyone else believe you? Your numbers are flawed.

[ubrew12]

That is a helligood post.

[ubrew12]

a Shout-out to rednomo, who clued us all into the 'Great American Bubble Machine' story at Rolling-Stone Magazine.
<<http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print>>

This article is HARDLY sympathetic toward Democrats, or the cap-n-trade legislation I have generally supported, but it DOES support the light being cast on financial institutions that aren't just 'too big to fail' but are actually big enough to TANK the American economy if it is in their profit-making interest to do so.

Compelling viewing.

[ubrew12]

Disagree. Obama is after oil. They ALL are. Our military isn't deployed for us, but for the people that pay our (enormous, debt-induced) bills. Those Americans who die for those who pay our bills, we thank you. You are the only foreign exchange this debt-ridden nation has left.

We have a kick-**s military. We have nothing else to give the global community. We pay our debts, with the blood of our young.

[ubrew12]

Lipton11 said: "Who said that these tea parties are anti-tax?"
They did.

[Lipton11]

Who said that these tea parties are anti-tax? I'm confused? I believe that people attending these tea parties have justified concerns about tax increases and backing the money that our govt seems to like to print. (and please do not spout off about George Bush?s war(s), I can?t change the past, I can only attempt to prevent it from happening again).
To say that the tea party?s premise is an anti-tax movement would be a misguided generalization. I don't believe most thinking people are foolish enough to believe there will be a world without taxes. So please don't lump all attendees into a protest sign that the media has shown you.
Anyone who works and is not concerned about how the national debt (past and present) is going to be paid for is living in a dream world. At the end of the day someone has to pay for dinner. These people are concerned about that bill.
As for the govt doing good things, yes it does do good things. Having worked for the govt for several branches for many years, I can tell you it does bad things equally. The fraud, waste and abuse that I witnessed rivaled the good thing it does. Unless you have worked for the govt first hand and/or worked for a particularly efficient branch, I would have to ask on what do you base your sure fire positive view of the govt?
Because unless you have experienced the US govt, both as a recipient and a participant, you are only seeing one side of the story. Every argument has two sides.

[Lipton11]

Could you site your sources for items 1-14 please. We'd all like to read them and ensure that personal bias was not entered into these claims.

[ubrew12]

When American capitalism worked best, between 1930 and 1980, the maximum marginal income tax bracket was over 90% (any amount you earned in a year over 6 million dollars was basically TAKEN by the Federal government and spent on public projects).

Like it or not, the 'Greatest Generation' of Americans were, by today's standards, flaming socialists. Very pro-labor, and very aware of the dangers of leaving all the nations money with the very-rich and their bankers, who had done their best to destroy the nation in the 1920s, gifting it the Great Depression. Sad that some lessons have to be relearned.