Comments on: Alleged Murder-For-Hire Rattles Small Town

CBS Evening News Exclusive: Placid Midwest Town Turned Upside Down By Alleged Hit List And Secretive Group

[qwerty000123]

The guy from Canada makes a lot of sense. SIST owed him money and he wanted to get it back, and he was going to do what it took to get it back, even if it meant he had to believe what they believed and tell stories about himself. After he got the 175k and realized they were serious about murder, mentioning guns and all, he went to authorities. It''s amusing to see Rama the con man meet his match with another con man - only this con man''s goal was just to get the money back that was owed him.

Also, if Rama wants Shawano officials to say nice things about them, he should give them a reason to. He shoudl be an upright citizen and pay his taxes. He he has a problem with the officials he shoudl talk to them and work out the problems instead of sending out defamatory flyers. This tactic only angers people and gets him nowhere and earns him no favors.

[lookingin2]

Repsonding again...the story from this guy from Canada not making sense...listening you can''t really even follow the story. "They owed my money...so I did more work for them...and then it sounded like a way to get some more money from them.." it really just doesn''t sound valid. SECONDLY....if you have had to live around here and listen to the Shawano "officials" they do make rude, snide, and biased comments on this group ALL THE TIME! The tourism council refused to promote their race track several years back for no real reason. This business brought hundred of people to spend nights in the city''s hotels. It killed that Tourism council to admit that later. Again....listening to both side and their stupid arguments FOR YEARS....is sickening!

[runningralph]

An unfortunate consequence of having a free society is that freedom fosters the growth of freaks and screwballs. Freaks and screwballs prosper in isolation and secrecy. Exposure to the light of publicity is poison to freaks and screwballs.

[helinmat]

I plead with all residents of Shawano to ask for the facts from the horse''s mouth. Only then will the histeria end.

[hopeful27]

Are you familiar with the compound? What the deal with that?
Posted by JJinWI1 at 04:28 PM : Dec 18, 2008

The compound is what they call the place where some live. There is a house and then a huge area that is covered by tarps. And when I say huge I mean huge. It is a big shed/garage that is covered, they do this for overhead reasons and taping. They are on the corner of a busy road that leads out of town and it is confined with tall trees and gates. At the one entrance there is a car that sits at the edge of the road, behind the car is a huge log that is there (Im guessing to block the driveway). There is someone in that car 24/7 and there has been rumors to them having guns in the car. Scary situation most definately and am glad that it is being brought to the national news.

[qwerty000123]

The guy you interviewed claiming to be the one who was asked to "take care" of a list of people? His story doesn''''t even make sense...re-listen once.

Posted by lookingin2 at 05:15 PM : Dec 18, 2008

How does this guy not make sense? I thought he sounded very credible, and evidently so do the FBI and Canadian Mounted Police.

[lookingin2]

I mean the county board of supervisor even PAYS to send 2 of their official to this groups annual conference. A LOT more going on in this way less than Idyllic town. What''s it all about? Money...SIST always wits until the last minute to pay their local taxes and this "idyllic town" can''t handle that. Never mind there are others on that list doing the same thing.There are a LOT MORE people than SIST that have felt this mis-treatement from Shawano & Shawano County for years.

[lookingin2]

Wow...Shawano "turned upside down?" This is a crazy comment. Living nearby Shawano and watching these two groups argue and fight against each other over the last few years, makes me sick. Both the Government of Shawano and Shawano County and SIST are acting ridiculous! The guy you interviewed claiming to be the one who was asked to "take care" of a list of people? His story doesn''t even make sense...re-listen once. Listening to this report really makes me doubt the validity of CBS.You should have tried to speak to others in this community. I mean a lot of us have been reading these headlines and laughing at both sides. Anyone living in or near Shawano County who isn''t from there, is a threat to their "idyllic" little town. You want to investigate something? Try investigating C.E.R.A. and look into the fact that one of Shawano "home town boys" Curt Knoke--who hides behind doing volunteer work-- and the Shawano County Chairman of the board of Supervisors, Marshall Giese, and their association with this group. This is one of the biggest HATE groups in this country and they are based right here in the Shawano area! Curk Knoke is even the President of the fundraising portion of this HATE and RACIST organization. www.citizensalliance.org/

[Justmyvoice]

I live two minutes from the Ramas. Say what you will, these people are sick. I would like to see SIST run right out of Shawano County. These people are Bible beating Jesus freaks. Why don't you go into the PeoEx and eat the free popcorn and coffee. Be my guest; I sure wouldn't.

[jjinwi1]

Theres more to the story of City officials not issuing permits. SIST is behind some $270,000.00 in taxes on multiple locally owned businesses. Why should a small town city continue to issue permits, when theres no actions being made BY THEM to get taxes caught up. Every U.S resident owning property is responsible for taxes. No exceptions. Im tickled pink that this has finally made it nationally, and everyday forth coming SIST is continuing to give themself a bad reputation.

Posted by ShawanoMan at 04:18 PM : Dec 18, 2008


Thanks for chiming in ShawanoMan! You''re right, the amount owed by them is a real concern. Is that the reason why they aren''t being granted the permits?

This looks bad for both groups involved, SIST and the city officials. SIST is not doing themselves a favor putting all those crappy videos up on YouTube, they are pretty much a joke in my view...and that lawyer of theirs....he''s something special, too. When is Naomi Isaacson''s hearing? How long can Green Bay hold her for an outstanding Maryland warrant?

Are you familiar with the compound? What the deal with that?

[jjinwi1]

The inactivity of the Feds is concerning. Apparently the SIST compound is feared to be heavily fortified and there isn''t a clear idea of their compound. Reports of massive tunneling has taken place, I guess they plan to bunker down good if the Feds try to approach the compound. I don''t think anyone outside the group has a clear picture of what''s inside their compound, and the lack of information coming out makes on assume that the Feds are pretty worried and making sure they don''t walk into a really nasty situation.

I''m surprised this story made it out of Wisconsin.