Comments on: Contaminated Baby Formula Fears Hit U.S.

CBS Evening News: The FDA Says Baby Formula Contains A Deadly Chemical, But Swears The Amounts Are Safe

[demdump]

SEEK THE MURDER CHARGE TO THE CEO''S OF THE COMPANIES MAKE THAT PRODUCTS....

[axomomma]

Call it a media scare if you will, but we don''t consume any food products from China.
The same with candy from Mexico. They still use lead in their products but for some reason the Media won''t report on that.

[onlythereal-]

Aside from, is it safe or not, the question is, does our government care enough for its people to do their job and keep poisons and deadly viruses out of our food supply? These days, you don''t know what you are eating; best wash those vegetables in a little bleach water and pray that the guy at the soup factory didn''t add a little extra to the mix. How hard would it be for a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer to get a job at a food processing plant, not hard at all we have millions of people from other countries working in them, some legal some not. Some just for honest work and some with "Death to America" on their mind. Our food supply is just one of many serious concerns the people of the United States are facing. Matthew 24 will let you know exactly what is going on, read it for yourselves and decide. There are a people who can see where we as a nation are going and there are those who are just along for the ride anyway so it doesn''t much matter but I challenge you to just look at this one chapter in the bible whether you have never read it before or you will never read it again. Dont let other people tell you how to think, think for yourselves, find out for yourselves.

[hatesthecolt]

This is a news media scare, pure and simple.

Posted by txgrouch2007

Da mn I hope you don''t have babies at home... I bet you''d let them play in the street because the risk of being hit by a car is overrated...

[demdump]

When are we gonna wake up ???do we have to wait for babies die before we ban Chinese products....
If any baby got sick I HOPE PEOPLE WILL SEEK A MURDER TO CEO''S......

[txgrouch2007]

You really are a moron... Melamine is a HARD plastic Posted by jtdev1 at 11:43 AM : Dec 01, 2008

So are you SURE that NONE of the plastic containers in your house has ANY melamine in it?????

How about hard plastic BABY BOTTLES. Any MELAMINE there???

The trace quantities detected would come from CONTACT with a plastic item that contained melamine, or from contact with a surface that had been cleaned with a cleanser that contained melamine.

If it''s NOT present in some samples, it means there was little or no melamine on the surface when they contacted it.

Other samples came in contact with a surface when it did have melamine on it.

NONE of the sampled indicated that someone intentionally poured melamine in the formula.

This is a news media scare, pure and simple.

[hatesthecolt]

This chemical is in your kitchen cabinets. Its also what those MR. Clean magic erasers are made off. How dangerous can it be?

Posted by cbscrash072

Well, dead is dead and given that the items you talk about are nto meant to be consumed, I think mayb e it ought NOT to be in baby formula.

[jtdev1]

How dangerous can it be?

Posted by cbscrash072



Don''t know, care to try some and let us know?

[cbscrash072]

This chemical is in your kitchen cabinets. Its also what those MR. Clean magic erasers are made off. How dangerous can it be?

[jtdev1]

If you keep leftovers in plastic containers in your refrigerator, there''''s more melamine in your food at home than in U.S. baby formula.

If you put baby formula in a plastic bottle with a soft plastic nipple, you''''re putting more melamine in it than it gets in the factory.

Posted by txgrouch2007




You really are a moron... Melamine is a HARD plastic (look it up). Those soft plastic containers your refering to do not contain melamine. (Nice try)

Also, if the traces originated from manufaturing then why is it that some samples contained it and others showed no trace???


So now the FDA came up with some guidelines regarding Melamine... After all this time where they couldn''t decide on a "safe" amount, they come up with it (of course its higher than what they found in the samples) Have to protect the companies at all cost...

[txgrouch2007]

I don''''t ever look up anything on Wikipedia, the info tends not to be very accurate from what I hear.
Posted by slim1h2o at 11:06 AM : Dec 01, 2008

Wikipedia presents the broken wire theory, along with about half a dozen half-baked theories and refutations of what''s clearly visible in the newsreel film.

You can''t deny what''s clearly visible. And my conclusion is fully supported by other GENUINE evidence that was found in Germany years later.

It was the paint. Ignited by a spark of static electricity. That''s it.

[txgrouch2007]

Maybe they still have it wrong, but it was a plausible theory.
Posted by slim1h2o at 11:06 AM : Dec 01, 2008

I don''t see any convincing evidence of a broken wire in the newsreel footage.

A broken wire would cause visible twisting wrinkles in the fabric, or a control surface moving out of alignment. None of that is visible.

It''s a remotely plausible theory. But no solid evidence to support it.

It''s like the JFK conspiracy theory. People can make up wild stories all day. But at the end of the day, the enhanced Zapruder film ON THE CONSPIRACY THEORY SITE leaves no room for doubt that Oswald fired the fatal shot. Any conspiracy theory is pure speculation.

[slim1h2o]

I read the entire Wikipedia entry, and I can answer all objections. The "crack" noise was the spark of static electricity that touched off a fire in the fabric on top. The rest was a chain reaction from the fabric fire.

Posted by txgrouch2007 at 10:38 AM : Dec 01, 2008

I don''t ever look up anything on Wikipedia, the info tends not to be very accurate from what I hear.

But the TV program I seen, was on the history channel, and was updated version with computer graphics, that I had never seen before when they have showed segments on the same subject in years past.
In other words, they re-investigated the case, and found out what really happened.

And now it''s new version of what happened. When the wire broke(the crack you mentioned) or cable, it sliced into the covering and Hydro. tank #4, and at the same time, static electricity was building up on the covering, and ignited the escaping fuel, which in turn ignited the covering like you said. But the covering was not the source of the fire itself, according to the show. Like I said, it was updated investigation of the incident.

Maybe they still have it wrong, but it was a plausible theory.

[txgrouch2007]

Due to over maneuvering, which caused stress on the ship, caused a support wire to break loose and puncture Hydrogen tank no. 4. And that covering you spoke about? Actually caused static electricity to form and caused the ignition of the escaping fuel. Which in turn caused a chain reaction to the other tanks.
Posted by slim1h2o at 07:21 AM : Dec 01, 2008

I just read that, too. The ground crew heard a "crack" sound.

There''s no proof that a wire broke. There IS ABOUNDANT proof in the newsreel footage that the fire WAS NOT a hydrogen fire.

First, ALL the fabric burned on the tail fins. The tail fins had no hydrogen.

Second, after the nose section fell to the ground, the hydrogen cells are clearly visible inside. You can see the cells melting open and releasing hydrogen directly into the blaze. And yet, there is no visible flare-up of the flames that are visible in the footage. Instead, it appears that some intert gas is coming out of the cells, because the gas has no visible effect at all on the fire.

I read the entire Wikipedia entry, and I can answer all objections. The "crack" noise was the spark of static electricity that touched off a fire in the fabric on top. The rest was a chain reaction from the fabric fire.

[txgrouch2007]

If you keep leftovers in plastic containers in your refrigerator, there''s more melamine in your food at home than in U.S. baby formula.

If you put baby formula in a plastic bottle with a soft plastic nipple, you''re putting more melamine in it than it gets in the factory.

[impeach___w]

Don''t worry we''ve carefully determinded the level of poison you can give your kids without immediate danger to the haelth or safety. We may change those limits as more babies are injured or die in the future but for now this limit is safe...

[ameidiot]

re: pjs0100
I think you are more stupid than anyone else here. I just want to educate you too that when melamine is found in US made formula doesn''t mean that there must be some precursor ingredient made in China.

[hatesthecolt]

I see no reason for concern. This is just athiests who hate President Bush causing trouble trying to tarnish his shining legacy.

Posted by lady_organs

Oh my yes I agree wholeheartedly! And I think you should lead the way by feeding your kids formula from China just to show all those nasty atheists how wrong they are!

[pensacola98]

Food chemistry is not an exact science as some may believe. Generally speaaking, for everything that is toxic in sufficient concentrations, there is anti-toxin present which helps the host. Scientists discovered this when synthetic food became entertained as a possibility. When known toxins were kept dilluted to safe levels, and antitoxins were completely absent, the host became sickened. Pharmaceuticals also learned this very same thing when creating their patented "Inert" ingredients for medicine, which are not really inert at all, but help the patient''s liver and extent the shelf life of the medication.

The stomach flora in different populations around the world is also different and contributes to the various thresholds of what is considered toxic and what is safe.

The FDA already acknowledges that one toxicity standard does not fit all populations.

A recent endicronologist report published that hormones from different animals taken together with meat (protiens) of those same animals offer effective treatment at lower concentrations and enhance liver health.

[jamikat1]

I am a new mother of an 8 week old and I am very concerned about this issue, but what concerns and upsets me more is when I start to read the comments regarding this issue the first one I read has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand, but it is someone showing great hatred for another human being. If a woman decides to bring a life into this world and it does not belong to you then it is none of your business. You don''t live in China and if she does have another baby, it will not be yours so why do you feel you have the right to open our mouth. You don''t! This is a very serious issue and innocent babies are becoming ill and even dying so lets focus on that!