Comments on: Peru Fights Yale To Reclaim Artifacts

CBS Evening News: Yale Locked In Dispute With Andean Nation Over Incan Artifacts

[toolmangler-2009]

I have got the perfect solution. Yale should break the artifacts into itsy bitsy pieces and put them in a large cardboard box and ship it back to them.
Posted by Lady_Organs at 02:01 PM : Nov 24, 2008



A ''real'' Lady would never have such a thought, let alone make such a statement.
So what should we call someone that ''would''??????

[summarex]

That Yale guy didn''t rediscover anything. The local Peruvians always knew about Macchu Picchu and would have documented what they knew eventually.

If they don''t return those artifacts the Peruvians should round up that provost and start cutting off body parts on video until they return the things.

Them archaeological widgets are worth money!

[imotorist]

According to Yale officials, I can take what I want as long as I don''t plan on giving it back.

[godseyesore-2009]

Is is property of Peru, pure and simple. They have every right for its full return, regardless of ANY political or economic circumstances. Yale is the criminal culprit here (which doesn''t surprise me given they graduated georgie bush).

[anillafield]

%u201CWhat I don''''t understand is why this is suddenly an issue after almost 100 years. If the Peruvians really cared about the antiquities, why did it take until now for them to speak up?%u201D

%u201CIf they really have a legitimate case, let them show some kind of evidence for it. Is there a contract that indicates the possession was temporary? If not, they''''re pretty much SOL.%u201D

- Posted by bread57 at 02:13 PM : Nov 24, 2008

See what I mean? More self-righteous comments about the behavior of the Peruvian people made with complete lack of knowledge about them or the issue at hand. The artifacts belong to them; we know that because Yale has the cumulative research material that clearly proves that they are Peruvian.

This attitude is very much like the G.W. Bush%u2019s attitude toward the international diplomacy. With extreme self-righteousness backed by great ignorance, the Bush administration attacked the %u201Cwrong country%u201D with the view to %u201Cspread democracy%u201D as if Americans were in the position to dictate to the world how they should behave. And we now have disastrous wars, destroyed economy and loss of international respect.

[bread57]

What I don''t understand is why this is suddenly an issue after almost 100 years. If the Peruvians really cared about the antiquities, why did it take until now for them to speak up?

If they really have a legitimate case, let them show some kind of evidence for it. Is there a contract that indicates the possession was temporary? If not, they''re pretty much SOL.

[anillafield]

Even in this thread the self-righteous and arrogant mentality that has infected our American minds for centuries is clearly evident. Simply examining the condescending comments made about the people of Peru in here reveal the following:

1) The bigotry. All of the comments about the %u201Cinability%u201D of the Peruvian people to research their own history and culture expose the raw prejudice about them. They are just as offensive as the KKK comments made about the black peoples%u2019 inabilities.

2) The ignorance. Despite the pretense of academic superiority, it%u2019s quite clear that the negative comments made about Peru are not based on any knowledge or analysis. The statements that express what the Peruvian people would do with their own cultural artifacts are presented as if they were facts or common knowledge, but it%u2019s obvious from the depth of intellectual content that the person who%u2019s made the comments know nothing about Peru or Peruvian people.

3) The arrogance. The very idea that the Yale researchers, under the pretentious cover of academic accolades, presume to be in the position to judge, predict and even dictate what the Peruvian people should or would do with their own properties reveals the sheer arrogance that could only come from the centuries of self-righteous ignorance. The American %u201Ccivilization%u201D was built with the slave labor. We are not, and should not pretend to be, in the position to judge the world.

[lady_organs]

I have got the perfect solution. Yale should break the artifacts into itsy bitsy pieces and put them in a large cardboard box and ship it back to them.

[clathrate]

Bottom line here is that possession if 90% of the law. Unless Peru can produce a written document showing that a representative of Yale promised to return the items, they do not have a case.


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Posted by redbds

You obviously have little understanding of the law.

Spain has sucessfully reclaimed a considerable amount of antiquities discovered by treasure hunters. There need not exist a specific written document; there need only be a provision in the nation''s constitution affirming sovereignty to national treasures.

Peru is the rightful owner here and they need to quit wasting so much time and legal expense fighting this. In the end, they will lose a lot more than just the artifacts in their museum; they are punishing their own scholars with this dispute.

[redbds]

Bottom line here is that possession if 90% of the law. Unless Peru can produce a written document showing that a representative of Yale promised to return the items, they do not have a case.