Comments on: Prop. 8 Anger Spurs Donor Blacklists

CBS Evening News: Online Donor Lists Prompt Boycotts Of Same-Sex Marriage Ban Supporters

[bjbbjm]

NOTE TO CBS: Re my earlier posted comment(s). I just noticed many duplicate posts, including my own which was inadvertent. Initially when I wrote and clicked "publish", my post appeared to not post. I thought I might have exceeded the 1500-character post limitation, and so, several times, I tried to shorten and then re-publish. This may be why various people''s posts, including my own, posted several times.

[bjbbjm]

The publication of contributions to Prop 8, for the apparent purpose to out those who contribute, so that opponents can harass and intimidate proponents, is appalling. At least in press to date, that''s what''s happening.

Personally, I voted against Prop 8, but not without significant ambivalent and conflicting feelings. I didn''t contribute money either way.

That said, I am disgusted with the liberal media bias on this, including the LA Times "outing" Prop 8 contributors (and just Prop 8, not the other Propositions far as I''ve found): www.latimes.com/news/local/la-metro-prop-8,0,2463893.htmlstory?appSession=64645633481862&RecordID=&PageID=2&PrevPageID=2&cpipage=3&CPISortType=asc&CPIorderBy=EMPLOYER

I new what would happen, and it did. I have great disgust for both the liberal media bias and actions to seemingly facilitate/encourage this, and also for any opponents who harass and intimidate proponents.

This hurts your cause. Personally, if this behavior continues, if there''s a next time, it''s likely I''ll vote very differently than I did this time.

[bjbbjm]

The publication of contributions to Prop 8, for the apparent purpose to "out" contributers (i.e., proponents) to help facilitate opponents to harass, intimidate, attack and blacklist proponents, is appalling.

Press thus far indicates it is opponents who are harassing proponents.

Personally, I voted against Prop 8, but not without significant ambivalent and conflicting feelings. And I didn''t contribute to Prop 8 at all.

That said, I am disgusted with the liberal media bias on this, including the LA Times "outing" Prop 8 contributors: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-metro-prop-8,0,2463893.htmlstory?appSession=64645633481862&RecordID=&PageID=2&PrevPageID=2&cpipage=3&CPISortType=asc&CPIorderBy=EMPLOYER

They facilitated a search of contributors by zip. I knew what would happen when I read the story, and it has. It seems the LA Times did this only for Prop 8, not the other Propositions.

I have tremendous disgust for both the liberal media bias and actions to seemingly facilitate/encourage this, and also for any opponents who harass and intimidate proponents.

I think this hurts your cause. Personally, if I see this behavior continue, then next time I vote on this type cause, it''s likely I''ll vote very differently than I did this time.

[rickhofeld]

Slavery, Inter-racial marriage and women''s rights were not settled on a ballot. -They were settled by "activist" judges. It is illegal and immoral for the majority to vote on rights of a minority. Prop H8 is a clear violation of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and church vs state. Regardless of your personal views on homosexuality, this issue should be left to each individual religious group to make their own decisions on marriage- YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to tell others how to live their lives in a "free" country.

[rickhofeld]

To all the FALSE Christians that are fighting against gay marriage, perhaps you should take another look at the Bible. There are more than 1000 x%u2019s more passages regarding love, acceptance, compassion, NOT passing judgement on others, etc. than there are about homosexuality. Christianity was not meant to be a salad bar%u2026 you can%u2019t pick and choose certain passages from the Bible to fit your personal beliefs. How many hundreds of millions went to advertising for Prop 8? Was that worth the lives of the children who died and are dying from starvation and disease worldwide during the campaign? Shame on you, hypocrates! Matthew 23:23, Romans 14:13.

[rickhofeld]

To all the FALSE Christians that are fighting against gay marriage, perhaps you should take another look at the Bible. There are more than 1000 x%u2019s more passages regarding love, acceptance, compassion, NOT passing judgement on others, etc. than there are about homosexuality. Christianity was not meant to be a salad bar%u2026 you can%u2019t pick and choose certain passages from the Bible to fit your personal beliefs. How many hundreds of millions went to advertising for Prop 8? Was that worth the lives of the children who died and are dying from starvation and disease worldwide during the campaign? Shame on you, hypocrates! Matthew 23:23, Romans 14:13.

[rickhofeld]

To all the FALSE Christians that are fighting against gay marriage, perhaps you should take another look at the Bible. There are more than 1000 x%u2019s more passages regarding love, acceptance, compassion, NOT passing judgement on others, etc. than there are about homosexuality. Christianity was not meant to be a salad bar%u2026 you can%u2019t pick and choose certain passages from the Bible to fit your personal beliefs. How many hundreds of millions went to advertising for Prop 8? Was that worth the lives of the children who died and are dying from starvation and disease worldwide during the campaign? Shame on you, hypocrates! Matthew 23:23, Romans 14:13.

[rickhofeld]

To all the FALSE Christians that are fighting against gay marriage, perhaps you should take another look at the Bible. There are more than 1000 x%u2019s more passages regarding love, acceptance, compassion, NOT passing judgement on others, etc. than there are about homosexuality. Christianity was not meant to be a salad bar%u2026 you can%u2019t pick and choose certain passages from the Bible to fit your personal beliefs. How many hundreds of millions went to advertising for Prop 8? Was that worth the lives of the children who died and are dying from starvation and disease worldwide during the campaign? Shame on you, hypocrates! Matthew 23:23, Romans 14:13.

[rickhofeld]

To all the FALSE Christians that are fighting against gay marriage, perhaps you should take another look at the Bible. There are more than 1000 x%u2019s more passages regarding love, acceptance, compassion, NOT passing judgement on others, etc. than there are about homosexuality. Christianity was not meant to be a salad bar%u2026 you can%u2019t pick and choose certain passages from the Bible to fit your personal beliefs. How many hundreds of millions went to advertising for Prop 8? Was that worth the lives of the children who died and are dying from starvation and disease worldwide during the campaign? Shame on you, hypocrates! Matthew 23:23, Romans 14:13.

[clovisbuford]

"Just like the thuggery now being practiced against Prop 8 supporters.
I don''''t care about one''''s personal beliefs and practices. If they harm no one, none of my business. It is not my obligation to create new and expensive categories of protected persons to accommodate you, nor is it my duty to submit to your reign of terror should I object to you."Posted by doorgunner3 at 04:02 PM : Nov 14, 2008 wow who knew voting with your pocket book was thuggery ..errr you support issues I dont agree with I choose to support someone else with my earned dollars. wow they should be forced to shop there ..or is it the freedom of information you ahte .. you can look up buisiness already online thet aliign with your particular beleifs ..listings of christian buisinessed etc.. but this thuggery ..intersting free market expresssions there .. hypocrisy knows no bounds .

[rhs648]

Civil lawsuits could be one way to stop groups from publishing the names of opposistion donors. If people can show that this activity has caused harm such as loss of job or loss of money, they may be successful in eliminating this practice. This is a tactic that has been used successfully against white supremist groups. These groups have been successfully sued resulting in loss of their money and property. It is possible to sue in a civil lawsuit even if no law has been violated. The key is harm such as loss of job or income. There are lawyers available for this type of litigation and it can be done on an individual basis or through class action lawsuits. There are ways to curb undesireable behavior.

[tx2democrats]

Marriage is not the issue, EQUAL RIGHTS is the true discussion; for those who are intelligent.

[tx2democrats]

Keep in mind that we had to leave the ARTS, FASHION, and HAIR to those who were not born with the gift of being GAY, what would this world look like.

GAY people are HIS gift to the world.
They have true contributions to our society
and most of them are nonbreeders which really
keeps the population in check. Let them adopt,
let them live freely, you can''t stop it, it will never go away, it will always be here.

[tx2democrats]

If I''m understanding this correctly, all those who gave money to 8 would prefer for the children, friends and everyone just LIE about their orientation. It is so much easier to LIE to oneself that giving money to this cause is worthy.

As long as we try to keep our brothers and sisters in the closet, it is wrong for them to live a LIE.

It is not a SIN to LIE but it is an abomination upon HIM.

I feel for all those men and woman who were LIED to for years by their partners because in every case, the TRUTH always prevailed.

Stop the LIES, let them be, be a Christian and love your brothers and sisters for who they are.

[erich_1-2009]

Shopping? Dining? Entertainment without the annoying, disgusting presence of ''''''''Flame-O''''''''s''''''''?...GREAT!!!...send me one of them lists!
Posted by piercetheval

I feel bad for you. That you feel the need to project self hate onto others.It takes all types of people to make the world go round. Instead of fearing the different, why not try to get to know them better.

Posted by hippychicky at 03:42 PM : Nov 14, 2008

Actually, speaking as a Christian Conservative, my wife, mother, and I find an occasional Gay waiter to be an interesting, entertaining, dining experience.
Flamo, Queer, ****, ***, or *** are improper slang words, and should never be used.

[clovernyc]

Newster - You are obviously confused.

Although marriage is basically a civil contract, not all civil contracts are ''marriages.''

Are you ''married'' to the individual who signs a promissory note with you? To the bank when you take out a loan?

Marriage IS a religious institution and no amount of yelping on your part can change that.

[klgrube1]

slownewsdaze: I didn''t say Sir Elton John spoke for all gay people, but I do believe he speaks for the silent, non-violent, non church-hating majority. In any event, you didn''t really respond to his comment. Engage the argument. How is he wrong? How is he right? What do you think about what he said. Is he wrong about domestic partner rights? If so, name one legal right such as insurance, property, inheritance, etc. afforded to married couples that is not afforded to domestic partners. Why is that just not enough?

[nothappyatall]

"Marriage is a religious institution with thousands of years of history."

Wrong, it may have history but it is a STATE ISSUED LICENSE you are required to buy before you can LEGALLY do it, the state does not require any church function or even a religious ceremony be performed.
You also go thru the STATE COURTS to get a divorce not a church, so get the facts right!

"There is no such thing as a ''''right'''' to be married."

Wrong again, it is a CIVIL CONTRACT between two people, and 2 people have the RIGHT to make a mutually agreeable CONTRACT.

"The courts do not have the right to redefine a religious institution."

Read again, it''s a STATE entity not a church one- you are required to pay for a state issued license and usually a blood test as well. The courts can also YANK those "non profit" churches who violate the IRS rules.

"Civil unions afford homosexuals all the rights and benefits of the marital compact."

Good for them, but it smacks of second class citizen to me, like providing seperate water fountains for BLACKS- yup they still get water, but it''s not right!

"There is really no issue here."

Posted by CloverNYC

On that line we agree!

[nosmokes]

As any black person who lived through the fifties and sixties can tell you separate and equal is inherently UNequal. A domestic partnership may sound great to you. but if you wanna get married then you should *** well be sble to get married. Hiding behind some religious argument is disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. Certainly a church should have the right sanctify or not any union it deems proper, but a marriage is a legal contract which is why you must have a license from the State to get one and an order from the court to dissolve one. As for boycotting the supporters of those that supported this wrongheaded and bigoted proposition, count me in!

[labrat9999]

I''ll bet if we really look into who is pro-gay marriage it''s the lawyers. They are running out of clients and now they are trying to make the gay community suffer the same so they can make more money on divorces. Don''t fall for this nonsense. Marriage sucks and divorce is worse. Just ask anyone who has been divorced recently in California who got most of their money...the lawyers!!