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CBS Evening News Crunches The Numbers To Find Out How Each Candidates' Proposed Tax Policy Would Affect Your Wallet

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by meinnv October 31, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
I think before the media reports on these so called "family" tax plans:


"A FAMILY CONSISTENTING OF........" would see their tax bill at $XX.XX, and warn "KEEP IN MIND IF YOU ARE SINGLE OR HAVE NO CHILDREN, IT WOULD BE $XX.XX".

Here one would think that a single parent & one kid wouldn''t have to pay taxes. This is ridiculous.

Oh, and FYI, the IRS says POVERTY is defined as 60% of your paycheck paying for living expenses--ie: rent, food, clothing.

And, also our monthly expenses don''t include clothing or clothing care which is under the IRS''s "living standards". But, thankfully we buy food on sale and clothing when we are stocked up on food.

WHERE''S OUR ECONOMIC BAIL-OUT????

LMBO in Las Vegas. NV :)
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by meinnv October 31, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
My mother makes, with her bonus mind you, around $40,000 per year. We are not rich by any means. We live rather modestly, and around our area that isn''t easy. Las Vegas is not cheap to live in, she has been at her job over 17 years, and if we had "savings" we would move. But we can''t and that is it.

We spend $2400 a month on living expenses, which doesn''t include our prescriptions the insurance doesn''t cover (she has insurance, I don''t), like Advair because of our moderate-severe Asthma (that is $360 a month for us). Without my Asthma meds, I can not work. She is lucky since she has insurance and can afford "cheap" meds, while I am left with nothing, and thus left unemployed.

That leaves $700 for groceries, medications, oh wait, I forgot taxes, because she has to go exempt so we can make ends meet.

That means she owes the IRS around $3400 a year. That is our medication money.

Here is an idea--INCOMING VERSUS OUTGOING tax system. You pay a percentage on "disposable" income, AFTER you''ve paid for all your living expenses, at the end of the year and not during it.

By the way, Obama or McCain, here''s a question.....

What''s my mom''s tax bill look like under your plan??
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by meinnv October 31, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
Here is something the media, and everyone is forgetting to say:

WHAT THE HECK DO THEY DEFINE AS A "FAMILY"???

Seriously?? What about the single mom, making $45,000 trying to take care of her daughter?

She''s got rent (which in this area can go as high as $1500 a month), utilities (in the summer electric is over $225 with high temps in the 110''s), food (forget McD''s that''s too expensive), car expenses (if she doesn''t have access or lives near public transportation) which can be easily $600 ($300+ car payment for those who don''t have good credit, insurance, gas & maintenance), medical expenses.

And for those who have young children, there is child care.

The list goes on.
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by hypnotoad72 October 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
%u201COil Giant $14.8 billion profit shatters Its Own Record For Biggest Quarterly Profit By U.S. Corporation%u201D

Don''''t worry about coorporate profits because if Obama is elected american business will no longer be profitable and if they are Obama will steal it back and redistribute it to the middle class.

So vote Obama we will have a middle class beholden to government and coorporations that are not in business for profits. Because god forbid anyone trys to make a profit you will be labeled as greedy.

Posted by Mccain08NC at 12:00 PM : Oct 31, 2008
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Profit is one thing, but closing out a worker''s job and relocating it elsewhere because it''s "cheaper" has hidden costs too. Especially if your current workers are good ones. Without people spending, those at the top wouldn''t have wealth either. It''s a symbiosis, and recent fluctuations in the market prove that. Country First means America first and rebuilding the middle class while still allowing people to have basic freedoms.
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by kimchongse October 31, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
NumbersThatMatter.com provides a calculator to show how much the two tax plans will save You, based on your income level.

http://www.numbersthatmatter.com/
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by gotravel1 October 31, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
Obama''s tax plan is a lie! First he said no one making under $250,000 would see their taxes raised(even though he wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire,so everyone will have their taxes increase),then he lowered it to $200,000 and this week Biden told a TV station that it is now $150,000.Do you see a trend here?They are throwing numbers out to try to get elected,knowing all alomg that they plan to raise EVERYONE''S TAXES,and those who pay no taxes will get a wellfare check.Wake up to the reality that Obama will say anyhting to get elected and is a fraud!
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by ilovejoethep October 31, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
Consider carefully your choice:
October Surprise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w
YouTube Search "Suit To Remove Barack Obama"
There are a TON of unanswered questions about the Democrat!
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by FHMullane October 31, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
Obama''s plan costs less and puts the money in the hands of the people who need it and will spend it. Once things start at the bottom people will buy the things that corporations make and the economy will trickle up... It isn''t going to trickle down. Making the rich richer doesn''t help the little guy and if the little guy can''t spend money on food, TV, furniture, toys, cars then corporate America will continue to take a dump.

The fact that is costs will be paid back once the economy is sound because when people are making good money and corporations make good money taxes are paid and then there will be a pay back.

Enough with Joe the Plumber.... McCain said this guy is his "role model"... now that is sick.
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by patocc-2009 October 31, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
People do realize that the more money people make the more they pay in taxes. I have a feeling that people do not know that or refuse to acknowledge it. I''m middle class and have no problem paying my fair share in taxes. I know if I make more money some day I will pay more. Its the sliding scale we have. But to what extent to we keep raising taxes on 1 class. Raising taxes on 1 class to give to another class to give them $10-20 dollars more a week does what to help them. $20 dollars a week will not improve thier lives all that much. If it does then why don''t all the people who are so much in love with this plan who can spare $20 dollars a week go ahead and pick 1 family living in poverty and give them that money. After a year see how much better they are living.
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by vegas11408 October 31, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
If you go to fact finder, most of McCain/Palin''s comments about Obama''s tax are false and misleading. I do not understand that majority of the Americans who are middle class would tend to go with McCain proposed tax plan to make the rich more richer, with majority of the middle class families worrying about trying to save money for college, home repairs, gas, car, kids clothes, etc. I do not think it is comparable to say that families making over $250,000 or millions will have the same worries like us middle class. At least they have some security financially. McCain as we know is very wealthy. He and his wife will get richer under his tax plan. Obama has admitted that making over $250,000, he should pay more in taxes. I think it is ironic that McCain wants to cut estate tax from 45% to 15% and he owns what 7 houses???? Lets think about what we really need in this world...
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