Comments on: Obama And McCain On Health Care

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[obbcbs]

McCains domestic terrorism connection Carl Lindner.
A man in McCain''s Ohio campaign, a good friend, and a fund raiser. He plead guilty to directly funding terrorists millions of dollars. McCain pals around with terrorists: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html

[obbcbs]

The shortage of physicians can be ''cured''. Open new federal medical schools, in every region of the USA, one new one each year, that teach both AMA and new age curriculae and which dont abuse the interns with low paid 70 hr work weeks. Graduates can choose to serve in Appalachia, the farm towns of the high plains, or inner city or the military and all tuition and fees, dorms and food are paid for them after 6 years of fully paid service at GS grade 12 pay for the first 4 years and GS 13 for the last two. If they sign up for 4 more years they get a retirement, at GS 13 civil service or in the military as a major.

[dinkydog1]

This Obama promise is intended to force private health insurers to go out of business, thus leaving everyone with no choice gut to enroll in his national plan of socialized medicine.


Posted by maakahill at 10:39 AM : Oct 10, 2008
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I hope your right

[aewill94]

TO NOBAMA_SWD, How am i being un-american, cause if feel everyone should have affordable heathcare. No one is taking care of me, I work hard and pay taxes.
------ May i ask how can someone be un-american, expain this to me. I am probably more American then your are.

[aloisonline]

Who is really paying health insurance aka desease care in America.
Folks lets check the facts and do the math and you will find it is us the taxpayer paying 100% of it all.
1. The "Private Sector" as the republicans so fondly call it is "Providing" health insurance but it is us the taxpayer after paying taxes on our wages and purchase the goods and services from those businesses who "Provide" health insurance. Providing employees with health insurance is a business expense and it is build into the price of those goods and services we buy and is also tax deductable and it gives those companies who refuse providing health insurance an unfare advantage because they charge somewhat lower prices and yet reap a higher profit margin.
2. There are about 14 million federal employees with health insurance paid for by ,yes you guessed right,the taxpayer and the same goes for our city, county and state employees of about 45 million people.
3.Those unfortunate people who have no health insurance due to unemployment or who have jobs with companies that use predatory employment practices and other factors cannot afford seeing doctors as needed and will and do end up in the emergency rooms of our hospitals that are again paid for by the taxpayer.
4. Medicaid paid for by the taxpayer.
Well, having said all that i think a redistribution of this existing wealth should suffice to include every man, woman and child.

[maakahill]

mswolfestock - Obama has pledged that he will prohibit insurance companies from having %u201Cpre-existing conditions%u201D clauses in their coverage. That is, insurance companies cannot turn you down for coverage simply because you already have something wrong with you. That, of course, is a prescription for the failure of insurance companies, because no one in their right mind would then bother to buy insurance until he became ill. People will simply go without insurance and, when they get sick, show up at the insurance company and say, %u201COkay, I''m here to buy health insurance and Obama says you can''t turn me down!%u201D You may as well tell car insurance companies they must issue you a policy after your car has been in an accident or has been stolen.



This Obama promise is intended to force private health insurers to go out of business, thus leaving everyone with no choice gut to enroll in his national plan of socialized medicine.

[aloisonline]

Who is really paying health insurance aka desease care in America.
Folks lets check the facts and do the math and you will find it is us the taxpayer paying 100% of it all.
1. The "Private Sector" as the republicans so fondly call it is "Providing" health insurance but it is us the taxpayer after paying taxes on our wages and purchase the goods and services from those businesses who "Provide" health insurance. Providing employees with health insurance is a business expense and it is build into the price of those goods and services we buy and is also tax deductable and it gives those companies who refuse providing health insurance an unfare advantage because they charge somewhat lower prices and yet reap a higher profit margin.
2. There are about 14 million federal employees with health insurance paid for by ,yes you guessed right,the taxpayer and the same goes for our city, county and state employees of about 45 million people.
3.Those unfortunate people who have no health insurance due to unemployment or who have jobs with companies that use predatory employment practices and other factors cannot afford seeing doctors as needed and will and do end up in the emergency rooms of our hospitals that are again paid for by the taxpayer.
4. Medicaid paid for by the taxpayer.
Well, having said all that i think a redistribution of this existing wealth should suffice to include every man, woman and child.

[mswolfestock]

John McShame''s "plans" for this country''s health care are the proof that he is totally insane and out of touch.

Has McShame ever had to buy his own health care?

McShame''s health care plan is just like all the rest of the lies he tells. The only people who will benefit from McShame are the insurance companies. We will all end up dying from pre-existing conditions that insurance never wants to cover.

[maakahill]

Finally, To save costs on prescription drugs, the federal government will impose profit limits on the drug companies. (Look for a %u201Cwindfall profits%u201D tax.) Those limits will cause more drug companies to go out of business or flee to other countries.
Lastly, under a national health plan like Obama proposes, it is a guaranteed certainty that a substantial number of Americans who are working %u201Conly for insurance%u201D will quit their jobs and go on public aid. This group includes the people who are currently too young for Medicare, but who go to work only because their employers provide group health insurance. They may be eligible for early retirement pensions, but their pensions may not include health care. Many people in that category will quit their jobs or retire as soon as they know they have health coverage from an %u201CObama plan.%u201D That will place an even greater burden on a national plan, as those people move from high-paid group insurance to the federal plan. Worse yet, those people will tend to have health problems, all of which will be added to Obama%u2019s tax-subsidized national health care system.

[maakahill]

FURTHERMORE, Note that while Obama states on the campaign trail that he is not seeking to establish a single-payer, universal health care plan for the United States, he repeatedly proposed just such a plan for Illinois while in its State Senate.
A nation health plan will most assuredly result in a shortage of physicians. If Americans who currently have no insurance are suddenly given free or low-cost insurance (subsidized by the taxpayer), they will certainly seek medical care %u2013 and there will not be enough doctors to go around. To control medical costs, the federal government will impose limits on fees for service. Reducing physician incomes is, of course, a good way to discourage young people from choosing the medical profession. After a few years of additional cost-cutting, a fair number of students will switch from pre-med to pre-law. There will also be a shortage of hospitals, and few new ones will be built because of reduced payments made necessary by the federal government%u2019s need to slow down escalating costs.

[maakahill]

Obama will include the 12-25 million illegal immigrants in the United States in his health care plans, which would encourage more foreigners with illnesses to enter the country %u2013 both legally and illegally. Obama estimates that his national health plan would cost $65 billion per year. Hillary Clinton estimated her plan would cost about $110 billion. Obama says he will cover everyone, while Clinton''s plan would not. Obama thus is promising more for about half the cost, suggesting he is at least twice as smart as Hillary Clinton. There is no possible way Obama can satisfy his promise of health insurance for every American (and every illegal immigrant, if you use Obama%u2019s own numbers) with only $65 billion per year. No one outside of the Obama campaign will support his claim.

[aewill94]

I am single mother of 3, I have a college degree, I work two jobs to support my kids. I pay $185 month in insurance premiums. But i also have a $4000 out of pocket expence each year before the insurance company the 80%. So i pray my kids don''t get hurt, or too sick that have to take them to the hospital. Those of you who are blessed to have great insurance coverage or jobs with very high salaries, cannot understand what it is like being the middle class or the poor. Everyone has to pay taxes, that''s just the way of life. There will be no way to get around not paying it, how do you think they are paying for the bailout, how do you think the war is being funded. By everyone paying higher taxes. It just seems fair that those who make alot more should pay more in taxes. If your making over $250,000 a year your not going to miss anything, your way of life will still be the same. But for those who''s income is less than, $50,000 higher taxes, increase in gas, increase in price of food and clothing, just makes it harder to make ends meet. Who can afford to go get their own insurance coverage with only a $5000 tax credit your giving to the insurance company anyway.

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To: NObama_SWD

Your comments are offensive and unrelated to the original content of the article. Presenting a thoughtful, logical argument about an issue is one thing. It''s unacceptable and UNNECESSARY to slander an individual in the ignorant, racist fashion you are using. Why don''t you rejoin the conversation when you are capable of participating in an INTELLIGENT manner?

[hologram5]

The only folks who will be voting for this 50%-Amerifrican NObama are neo-Marxist hyphenated-Americans.

Reckon there exists sufficient numbers of these hyphenated-Americans to get this neo-Marxist elected to the White House??

Is America really ready for a ride on NObama''''s new age pinko train??



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Posted by NObama_SWD at 09:25 AM : Oct 10, 2008

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It is this mentality that is what is making this "once great" country harder to run and maintain. Racist remarks have no place in our time.

[hologram5]

Giving tax credit will do NOTHING if the cost keeps rising, you moron. Where do these people get these stupid ideas. The whole cost of health care cannot be open to "free market" and not get out of control just like the mortgage problem. Let''s think about it, greed is everywhere and rampant, there is no stopping the "love of money"

[misha128-2009]

Posted by harbinger09 at 08:41 AM

Reminder as constructed McCain''s Mortgage bailout will provide banks that use the Republican Insurance option that McCain got inserted into the original bailout in combination with his new plan to make the banks whole in their transactions regardless of misconduct. Assuring the high flying CxOs their salaries and golden parachutes they would have to give up under the other bailout bill. It is clearly a Republican attempt to recreate the worst bailout bill possible sticking the taxpayers with all the losses from the misconduct in the financial markets and protecting their CxO buddies just like McCain''s actions in the Keating Five but on a significantly larger scale for considerably more money.

[misha128-2009]

Posted by kesac4650 at 06:12 AM

Respectfully -- McCain said he would take money directly from one taxpayer to subsidize another. Obama on the other hand to me indicated an employer contribution to healthcare would be required -- and it could be provided to the employee by the employer or the government to assist people to get health insurance.

[harbinger09]

This is funny--McCain made Republicans embrace a former mistress as potential first lady, illegitimate teen pregnancy, an Airhead for a VP and now they must embrace socialism and helping out the poor with a 300+ billion dollar mortgage bailout--before its over, the Republican party will seem more liberal than the Democrats and the Republicans have to swallow it--because he is all that they have.

Paying for a public bailout,ignoring subpoenas, obstructing investigations, then supporting airhead females for VP with secessionist party spouses and championing pregger teens indeed--what were those conservative values again? Hypocrites.

[kesac4650]

Link to one black man''s opinion.
www.YouTube - BTW I''m Voting For Mccain / Palin

[kesac4650]

Obama promised at the last debate, to take money from those companies still prosperous enough to have health care benefits and give benefits to the less prosperous companies. Kind of makes you wonder why you should work smarter and try harder, if the President will just take it away from you to give to someone less motivated.