Comments on: Obama And McCain On Health Care

CBS Evening News: How The Candidates' Proposals Would Affect Your Community

[pughenry3]

Has anyone noticed the inverse relationship and correlation between the Barack Obama-Joe Biden campaign ticket stock seemingly going up and every stock on Wall Street going down.

It is plain to see that there is a cause and effect between any seeming growing momentum behind an Obama election and the continuing recent real stock market crash.

Wall Street is about future expectations six months from now and the expectations are that Barack Obama will not help our economy if he is elected.

Wall Street and the world knows that an Obama election will not be good for business. A vote for John McCain will be a vote for our economic recovery.

If you want to keep your job or have a future please vote John McCain. Get out there and vote for John McCain. Get your friends to vote for John McCain. Vote John McCain!!!!!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!

[pughenry3]

Is Barack Obama blowing smoke or not? Is Barack Obama a chain smoker or not?

If he is only a closet smoker and not transparent by smoking in public and admitting that he has a nicotine addiction then how can we trust him on other issues that are truly grave?

Does he smoke a lot of cigarettes only when he plays poker with his Chicago friends or is it a daily habit?

How can we trust him on health care if he is a smoker. Would not someone who really wants to hold down healthcare costs want to quit smoking.

We want to know if Barack Obama is going to promise to not chain smoke around Joe Biden because Joe Biden had asthma as a teenager. The reason that Joe Biden could not fight for his country in 1968 during the peak of the Vietnam War was that he had teenage asthma.

[aewill94]

TO MSA123---Do you support the bailout,if so there goes your tax dollars at work. The bailout was just wellfare for the rich.

[aewill94]

TO MSA123--- I have healthcare through my employer, I to have a high deductible as well. I also have two jobs to make up for the high cost of just living.

--- If you didn''t read the rest of the comment I made. I said,maybe the money should go to the employers, to offset the cost of providing insurance their employees. This is for both McCain and Obama.

[incog-nito]

msa123: The Canadian system is not the best universal health care model, but it''s still rated better than the U.S according to the World Health Organization. All other Western countries have it, and they rank even better.

[incog-nito]

I guess that is why Canadians come to US doctors because otherwise they have to wait for months to get treated b/c of their great nationalized healthcare system. I''''d rather pay and be able to be treated promptly. Money''''s not everything. But hey, that''''s just me.

Posted by msa123 at 11:48 AM : Oct 10, 2008

That''s BS.

[aewill94]

TO MSA123----Money not everything to those who have enough of it. For those who make less than $80,000 a year, it is everything.


Noone is saying free healthcare, but afforable to everyone, not just the rich. Maybe the tax credit should go to the employer to offset the cost of providing the healthcare.

[misha128-2009]

Who wants a McCain plan where your insurance policy is regulated by out of state administrators and regulators over which you have no vote?

[dinkydog1]

To Dinkydog:

If your hoping for socialized goverment run health care, then you should vote Democratic. Because Democrats like the idea of a national health care plan where illegal immigrants can get the best medical care my tax dollars can provide, and because they like the idea of doctors leaving the profession after the government reduces their fees in an effort to keep the program from going bankrupt.


Posted by maakahill at 11:10 AM : Oct 10, 2008

.......................

And in your subserviant world you would like Doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and big pharma to be able to charge anything they want while you are powerless to do anything about it. Lose you insurance and risk loseing everything you have if you need health care. Face it, Americans ability to afford the rate of health care cost increase is unsustainable. Nationalized health care works in almost every industralized country in the world at a fraction of the cost we spend in the USA.

[aewill94]

TO DANTE80------Yes you reap what you sew, just like all those who voted Bush in both times. Life is great!!!

[maakahill]

To OBBCBS

I hope your right on Obama''s plan for illegals. It is already illegal to hire undocumented aliens, regardless of their wage rates. All Obama has to do is tell the immigration officials to enforce existing laws; there is more of a need to follow existing laws neglected by Clinton and Bush admistrations. Then let''s get our fellow Americans off of welfare and other crutched social programs to do the jobs the illegals are performing, which is easier said then done.

I don''t think either canidate is too keen on speaking out on illegals, because they don''t want to lose their voting influence. Personally, its more of question of National Security. Again, I hope your right if Obama is elected..

[incog-nito]

"I will give every family, every family in America, a $5,000 credit to buy their own health insurance policy and let them choose their own doctor," McCain said. "This will make insurance affordable to every American."

Sounds great, except that it WON''T make insurance more affordable. Anybody who has to buy individual health plan knows that it''s much, much more expensive than a group plan. The whole idea of a group plan is to use the economies of scale to lower cost for everyone in the plan. Buying individual plans defeats that purpose. You''re basically throwing taxpayer money at something that''s already more expensive to begin with. That''s not to mention the real possibility that insurers will just raise premiums to pick up the slack.

Another problem with McCain''s plan is that it does nothing to protect individuals from the vagaries of private insurers. People buying individual policies do NOT get the same savings and protection as those in a group plan. That means insurers can raise premiums anytime, deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, discontinue coverage at any time, etc. I know many self-employed people who have to do this, and their experience has been nightmarish. I have a friend who had his individual policy premium increase twice in six months for no apparent reason whatsoever. As bad as the current system is, McCain''s plan has the potential of making things worse, not better

[dante805]

Obama and ACORN are anti-US organizers. He cant lie his way out of this like Ayers and Wright. ACORN is a subversive org. All of them should be put in prison. OBAMA is a fraud. Anyone voting for him ignores this fact. You reap what you sew.

[obbcbs]

maakahill

Obama''s intention is to put hiring managers in jail if they hire an illegal.

You dont have to worry about the continued ruination of the health care system by illegals under the Obama government. He is going to run them out of the country by making law enforcement put hiring managers in jail.
The illegals will leave without work.
You wont be able to go down by the hardware store and pick up an illegal to do your yard work though. No one will be allowed to hire them.
If people hire them, then they will stay. its simple. it will take education and cooperation.

[obbcbs]

the shortage of physicians is an intentional manipulation of the market.

federal med schools will make affordable care possible. And if the public makes health care a priority, the issues with service level, like time to get a particular specialist can be addressed.

Just dont vote for another war, like Palin''s proposed war with Russia.

We CAN afford to staff new med schools and provide high quality medical care for all souls on board. We just cannot afford McCain''s housing bill AND good medical for all souls. McCain''s newly announced plan he mentioned at debate #2 says: give the banks who own all the mortgages in the USA the difference in cash between the current value of all homes in the USA and the original price of the house. That money is proposed to come from the US treasury directly to the bank. $300 billion.
That''s the plan. You pay, the bank gets it. That kind of plan is INSTEAD of, health care for 50 million people. The diffference in Obama and McCain''s plans is 50 million people. McCain''s plan will take 20 million out of the system and Obama''s will add from 30 to 35 million people.
Everyone wont be covered, in either plan. McCain''s is designed by lobbyists, to improve the cash flow to insurance companies. Obama''s is designed to deliver health care to millions more people.
VOTE OBAMA in 08.

[aewill94]

TO Maakahill---For me it is the lesser of to evils, John McCain said, he has voted with Bush 90% of the time more then any other senator. Why would I want 4 more years of the last 8 we just had. Both of their healthcare plans may or may not work. I will vote for who I feel the american people best interest. Not big CEO at these companies having $440,000 spa days. What a waste of money.

[maakahill]

To Dinkydog:

If your hoping for socialized goverment run health care, then you should vote Democratic. Because Democrats like the idea of a national health care plan where illegal immigrants can get the best medical care my tax dollars can provide, and because they like the idea of doctors leaving the profession after the government reduces their fees in an effort to keep the program from going bankrupt.

[obbcbs]

interesting differences in the strategies of Obama and McCain plans.

McCain''s will destroy employer plans for 20 million people and require individuals to scrabble against insurance attorneys and create higher premiums and reduce coverage.

Obama''s will eliminate the middle man, the insurance companies, whose main purpose is to take money off the top.

Hmmm. which plan will be better for the general public?

The one that increases costs and
reduces the number of people covered by 20 million
McCain
or the one that delivers care to 30 million more people
and which will lower costs for people covered
Obama

I choose Obama in 08.

PS. You rich people will always be able to buy heart-lung transplants.

[aewill94]

TO NOBAMA_SWD---I said healthcare, I didn''t say government cheese, wall street got all the cheddar, 700 billion dollars now who just got government cheese, and you''re paying for it, should have given it to you for your health care.

[maakahill]

TO aewill94:

I feel the majority of Americans don''t feel your being un-American to pose this question and your concerns. These are real concern to American families like yours and I''m not sure either candidate will solve the problem.

But the more I research Obama''s plans and his limited political history in the senate, the more I''m convinced socializing health care isn''t the answer. Canada health care system is socialized, specialty services are very difficult to acquire with long waits and some times considerable travel to see a Doctor.

Vote your conscience, but do your due diligence on both candidates and look at their past performance on this issue and others. Obama will bring CHANGE there is no doubt, but change isn%u2019t always positive. God Bless your family...