Comments on: The Candidates On Lying To The Public

CBS Evening News: Obama And McCain Answer Katie Couric's Presidential Questions

[usapride70]

Plain and simple:

The Republicans messed up and in order to save their rich buddies they want avarage Joe tax payer to bail them out.


Don''''t let them do it to you again.


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Posted by SHURCH4TRUTH at 08:41 AM : Sep 24, 2008

You don''t want the truth....it has been stated everywhere....the democrats started this mess, the republicans are getting blamed for it.....Obama gets more money from FM&FM, with the exception of Chis Dodd, than anyone else, and you still want to cry Republican''s did it. Wake up.

[usapride70]

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The bill passed the House but was never brought up for a vote in the Senate, largely because of Democratic opposition to change in the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac regulatory structure that remained in place until the Treasury takeover two weeks ago.

As evidenced by the failure to pass the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, the Democrats in Congress have repeatedly fought back Republican Party efforts to reform the two mortgage banking giants.

Instead, Democrats in Congress have sought to preserve the quasi-governmental status of the mortgage giants, seeing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as places to locate former top Democratic Party operatives, where they have earned millions in compensation, despite a continuing series of financial scandals. Enron-like accounting manipulation, for example, boosted earnings to a level at which massive executive bonuses could be paid.

In the aftermath of the U.S. government takeover, attention has focused on three Democrats with close ties to Obama who served as Fannie Mae executives: Franklin Raines, former Clinton administration budget director; James Johnson, former aide to Democratic Vice President Walter Mondale; and Jamie Gorelick, former Clinton administration deputy attorney general.

All three Obama-related executives earned millions in compensation from Fannie Mae.

[usapride70]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75586

A review of Federal Election Commission records back to 1989 reveals Obama in his three complete years in the Senate is the second largest recipient of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae campaign contributions, behind only Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., the powerful chairman of the Senate banking committee. Dodd was first elected to the Senate in 1980.

In contrast, McCain warned of the coming mortgage crisis as he pressed in 2005 for regulatory reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

"For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac %u2013 known as government-sponsored entities or GSEs %u2013 and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market," McCain said on the floor of the Senate in 2005, speaking in favor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005.

McCain pointed out Fannie Mae''s regulator had stated the company''s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company''s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
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[usapride70]

"McCain aide%u2019s firm was paid by Freddie Mac
The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by McCain "

"WASHINGTON - One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain%u2019s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement."

http://www.msnbc.msn.co
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Posted by smurfcrusher at 03:18 AM : Sep 24, 2008


Who have Fannie May and Freddie Mac been paying?

From 1989 to 2008 the top four recipients of Fannie May and Freddie Mac cash as campaign contributions were:

1. Dodd, Christopher J
S
D-CT
$133,900

2. Kerry, John
S
D-MA
$111,000

3. Obama, Barack
S
D-IL
$105,849

4. Clinton, Hillary
S
D-NY
$75,550

This looks a trifle dodgy and smacks of corporate welfairism. Wasn''t Obama meant to be whiter than white on campaign contributions? Some questions need to be asked. What were the two mortgage giants hoping for in return? Why did they switch from financing Republicans to Democrats as soon as the Republicans lost its majority in Congress? Why have they given money to the 4 most important Democrats for their business (Dodd chairs the Senate Banking committee)? What were they expecting in return?

[spiritwalk]

Has either of these men seen their own ads?

Who are they kidding?
Posted by jjp735i

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Joe Biden addressed that issue yesterday. In the morning Biden said that he thought the ad mocking McCain for saying he did not know how to email was wrong and uncalled for. He went on to say that Obama had not seen the ad before he endorsed it.
Later that afternoon Biden said that he had not actually seen the ad himself and that Obama actually had seen the ad before he endorsed it and that there was nothing wrong with it.
What was the topic? Oh yes, "Do candidates lie?"

[jjp735i]

Has either of these men seen their own ads?

Who are they kidding?

[negrovote-]

Obama is now back-tracking on all his promises of free give aways to voters that he made during the primary in order to take votes from Hillary.

[spiritwalk]

Can anyone name one politician that does not, has not lied?
Can anyone here actually say that they, themselves, can get through an entire day without telling at least one lie? (White lies and social lies count. If you color away that gray, its a lie. If you wear black because it is slimming, that''s a lie.)
BS is part of the human condition. It would be almost unnatural for someone to never lie.
When you lie you are responsible for giving someone a false perspective of reality. Therefore every lie you have been told has altered you concept of reality.
That is why you never know who you or anyone else really is because you make you judgment based on false data.
You are better off assuming that everything you hear is a lie and dealing with it that way. Don''t try to find out what the candidates are lying about, concentrate on finding what they are saying is the truth. It''s much less complicated.

[racercj30]

To: Katie Couric 09-23-08 I need more than 1500 character letters
Please provide to All Candidates & to ask them if they agree with this and response
Katie I am broke and homeless I can not afford to subscribe to your newsletter or for all the other ones listed on CBS
Would you do something for me and tell FOX to fix their TV signal so that I can see TYRA without having to undo the converter box.
What are these Candidates going to do about the high cost of cell phone Bell created the phone and I don''t think made a whole lot off of it compared to one year of a cell phone Company.
I need about a plan with about 14400 mins a month for a price of $29.99 a month.
Kevin S. Gerig / [e-mail]

[armydog2]

mccain and palin are the liars here they wouldn''t know the truth if it bit them on the as-s.