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- What do you call 200,000 kids physically punished in school?
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- Posted by meandmesa at 08:57 PM : Aug 20, 2008
Your method sounds heavenly on paper, but happens to be responsible for the current trend of aimless and misguided youth who are allowed to "express themselves" however they choose, without regard to the fact that the "self" is precisely the problem. From "self" comes "selfishness".
No one has ever had to teach a child how to do the wrong thing.....they do it naturally. No, they must be taught to do the right thing. Anyone who has the minimal knowledge of human nature is able to grasp this fact right off the bat and doesn''t need any psychological mumbo jumbo to get there......it is common sense. - Reply to this comment
- Good for you, Maxify55!!! That''s the same way I see it. If a teacher or school administrator has a problem with one of my kids, they need to talk to me about it. If they want to take administrative action against my kids, that''s fine. But anyone who beats up on my child answers to me, and I''ll make sure that person tastes a good dose of their own violence. Fathers protect their families.
Why can''t schools just expell bad kids? Expell them and ban them from campus. It''s that easy. Of course, I know in a lot of states, the schools get paid money for each child, so they aren''t likely to do that. - Reply to this comment
- Parents have forgotten how to say "no" to their children because they have latched on to some ***-eyed drivel from psychologists who are raking in the moolaaaa for thier advice.
Parents seem to be afraid of their children, even a three year old. They don''t understand their authority as parents and what is expected of them. In short, they are ready the wrong books and listening to the wrong advice. Need to latch on to God and ask Him for His counsel from the giver of truth,,,,,,but, it will probably have to get much much worse before they will admit they need real help. It may even take as long as it takes for same sux couples to be in the majority. - Reply to this comment
- I do believe that a parent should spank their child if their behavior is out of line. My 3yr old daughter gets 1 to 5 swats on her behind depending on the severity of her behavior (i.e.-hitting my 5yr old sister got her 5 swats, playing with cords she knows not to touch gets her 1). But I do NOT want Joe-Smith-Teacher down at the school spanking her. Discipline is the parents'' job, and my husband and I take care of it. Someone who is practically a stranger has no right to spank my child. I''m going to have to look into the laws regarding this in my state. She''ll be going to preschool next year, the school won''t take her this year.
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- Would you rather have kids do the right thing because they are afraid of being punished or because they feel good inside knowing they did something positive which translates into their having a far more healthy view of self which increases the likelihood of their becoming productive, positive members of society? Corporal punishment causes kids to operate out of the lowest form of moral development which is oppositional to what we want our kids to be like as adults. In addition, just because punishment "works" in the moment to stop bad behavior doesn''t mean that it''s good to use or that it translates into kids exhibiting socially acceptable behavior once the punisher or punishment disappears. For example, do kids treat each other with dignity and respect on the playground, or on the bus when the punisment is no longer being threatened? Unforturnately, children often mimic or act out the corporal punishment that was used on them which is what makes corporal punishment so insidiuos in terms of the long term negative impact it can have on a child''s growth and development.
Instead of using corporal punishment, it is far more effective to understand and address the root cause of the inappropriate behavior and to have kids make restitution for what they did wrong i.e. help a child rebuild the blocks that s/he knocked down, fix what they broke, repair the damaged relationship, etc. - Reply to this comment
- Would you rather have kids do the right thing because they are afraid of being punished or because they feel good inside knowing they did something positive which translates into their having a far more healthy view of self which increases the likelihood of their becoming productive, positive members of society? Corporal punishment causes kids to operate out of the lowest form of moral development which is oppositional to what we want our kids to be like as adults. In addition, just because punishment "works" in the moment to stop bad behavior doesn''t mean that it''s good to use or that it translates into kids exhibiting socially acceptable behavior once the punisher or punishment disappears. For example, do kids treat each other with dignity and respect on the playground, or on the bus when the punisment is no longer being threatened? Unforturnately, children often mimic or act out the corporal punishment that was used on them which is what makes corporal punishment so insidiuos in terms of the long term negative impact it can have on a child''s growth and development.
Instead of using corporal punishment, it is far more effective to understand and address the root cause of the inappropriate behavior and to have kids make restitution for what they did wrong i.e. help a child rebuild the blocks that s/he knocked down, fix what they broke, repair the damaged relationship, etc. - Reply to this comment
- If you hit my 3 yr old, I''''m coming down to the school with a gun. There will be no corporal punishment to a 3 yr old. You''''ll deal with me and I''''ll deal with the hang man but you "will" deal with me.
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Posted by maxify55 at 08:51 PM : Aug 20, 2008
What is your goofy 3 year old doing at school anyway?
Aren''t you mature enough and responsible enough to handle a 3 year old without having the state do it?? - Reply to this comment
- Judging by the huge number of rebellious, crime prone ,teens and adults out there,I,d say the rod has been spared an awfull lot. Proper parenting and guidance has become a rarity.
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- Why don''''t you leave this topic to people who have studied it and have reliable data on it, and leave your love for "American culture and tradition" out of it, since tradition justifies nothing.
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Posted by Voltaire777 at 08:46 PM : Aug 20, 2008
Why don''t you leave your hate for grass roots America at the door on your way down. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by Voltaire777 at 08:42 PM : Aug 20, 2008
And you represent the minority of new age twits that want to throw out all tradition and foundational truths that have been proven throughout the decades. The evidence of the turning away from these traditions is glaring you in the face which is undeniable, but the liberals still head for the cliff......blindly pushing on toward destruction and dragging their children down the tubes with them. Open your eyes! - Reply to this comment
- Posted by Voltaire777 at 08:42 PM : Aug 20, 2008
And you represent the minority of new age twits that want to throw out all tradition and foundational truths that have been proven throughout the decades. The evidence of the turning away from these traditions is glaring you in the face which is undeniable, but the liberals still head for the cliff......blindly pushing on toward destruction and dragging their children down the tubes with them. Open your eyes! - Reply to this comment
- Edit: Hurt anyone.
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- Teaching the uncivilized has always been difficult. If you can''t paddle ''em, kick ''em out of school. Let ''THEIR VILLAGE'' educate them.
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- A little tough love never anyone.
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- Now here I thought after all these years that all you young parents wanted the government and evryone else to be responsible to raise your kids because your to busy or irresponsible to do so. What do ya know, i must have been wrong. I always thought dicipline was part of raising kids, teaches them responsibility for their actions. Something a lot of parents are sorely lacking.
Spare the rod spoil the child was how I was raised and how my 4 kids were raised;and not one of my four kids will ever say that they were abused and they are quite proud of how they were raised.
A little corporal punishment never hurt anyone, but just maybe you should do it yourself before accusing hard working teachers of abusing your beautiful,angelic innocent children. - Reply to this comment
- I was surprised to hear this. I thought corporal punishment vanished years ago. I realize teachers need to maintain control, but there must be a better way. I believe striking a child with a weapon sends the wrong message. It tells them violence is ok. If I were to strike a teacher with a board, I would be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, and sent to prison for years. So what''s the difference?
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