Comments on: Black Churches Confront HIV-AIDS Crisis

CBS Evening News: Despite Stigma, Religious Leaders Say They Can't Ignore Disease Any Longer

[cbsfan73]

Why try to make this into a church issue anyway? The issue lies withing the self, not the church.

[gwagener]

You can read about it in the book of Revelation.
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Posted by JediServant at 10:36 AM : Aug 18, 2008

Revelations was the rantings of someone who was clearly high when he wrote it. Certainly nothig to be taken seriously. It was only included in the bible because it is so vague that it could be interpreted in the manner most convinient to the moment.
The inclusion of Revelations and the exclusion of other books shows the fraud of the process.
Really the new testament is a collection of pamphlets all written 300 or more years after Jesus died. Jesus is a myth like King Arther or Robin Hood. There may have been such people long ago, but stories were made up and passed on and embelished, then written down centuries later. It is all nothing but fraud.

[jediservant]

You must be talking about the 7 plagues of revelations. So do you think we are in the "end times"? And if so, what about the hundreds of people who predicted this over the past 20 centuries? None of which were correct in their prediction dates.
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Posted by ibzjem

If you read your Bible like you say you do then you should know we are in the "end of times". You say men have "predicted this over the past 20 centuries" but it has only been within the last century that man has developed the weapons required to fulfill the prophecies.

Look at the prophecies regarding Israel, some have been fulfilled in our time and I bet the one where God comes to fight to save the place where He put His Holy name will be fulfilled in our time also.

[sparkyforfun]

GOP_forever

I lived in Altoona, that is one of the most depressing and unGodly places.

[cbsfan73]

ktgilb1 wrote:
"I love when white people try and tell us how to solve our problems, unless you are black, and live in our world you don''''t know what we go thru and how we see things. Perception is reality, and our preception is totally different than yours."

Are you trying to say that your perception is flawed?

What is your solution?

[sparkyforfun]

gangesdak

I was with you til the last part.

[gop_forever]

I am a firm believer that the Churches have let us down. When I was raised the church taught us to keep the Ten Commandments of God. But now they teach this cheep grace stuff and all you have to do to be saved is believe in Jesus.

Let me tell you something, on the day of judgment Jesus is going to say "... I never knew you, you who practice Lawlessness" (Matthew 7:21).--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posted by JediServant
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It is the people who have let down the churches. They refuse to go unless mass makes them feel good. Otherwise they stay home and watch TV.

[sparkyforfun]

gangesdak

I was with you til the last part.

[claytonantho]

As long as you got ministers who cannot discern when to declare sin as sin and when to show compassion and love, many will tell the church to do what the guy in the article said he did, that is "go to hell." A person with aids asking for help do not need any preacher telling him about his sins or how he or she got aids. It is the wrong time to make a person feel guilty. The very sad fact is that many so-called "men of God" have no clue how to approach any difficult situation without being an a s s or judgmental.

[ibzjem]

I study "religious doctrine" and I can tell you that even today God does use plagues and pestilence to bring judgement on the world. You can read about it in the book of Revelation.

Posted by JediServant at 10:36 AM : Aug 18, 2008


You must be talking about the 7 plagues of revelations. So do you think we are in the "end times"? And if so, what about the hundreds of people who predicted this over the past 20 centuries? None of which were correct in their prediction dates.

[jediservant]

I am a firm believer that the Churches have let us down. When I was raised the church taught us to keep the Ten Commandments of God. But now they teach this cheep grace stuff and all you have to do to be saved is believe in Jesus.

Let me tell you something, on the day of judgment Jesus is going to say "... I never knew you, you who practice Lawlessness" (Matthew 7:21).

[gop_forever]

xmanborg, I am a responsible christian mother of six. My entire family is highly respected here in Altoona and we give generously to the church.

[gangesdak]

Role to religion is help people in their quest for self purification. Because strait (narrow) is the gate and narrow is the path. Walking on this razor%u2019s edge requires discipline and devotion. Unfortunately, most churches- black and white- ignored the requirement of control and discipline, and announced to everyone that all they have to do is pledge allegiance to Christ, hang the biggest cross from heir neck, and do anything they wanted. The churches taught that the strait is really a ten lane highway complete with fashion parade orchestrated by the pastors and the priests, who are nothing but business people. Naturally the AAIDDS. Whites have more money; they can hide the problem better. That%u2019s all.

[jediservant]

Please allow me to clear up my previous post. I know there are some good black people in my community. I know blacks that I could trust with my life, wife, my family and my money but they are few and far between.

[sparkyforfun]

There are a few good family men,,, its the younger generation that is different.

[jediservant]

I live in the south and I can tell you first hand that blacks are lazy, disrespectful, trashy and unfaithful. The only thing they care about is drugs, drunkenness and how many women they can have s-e-x with.

[kristk68]

why black communities with high level of HIV. It seems right to associate any bad negative stuff with blacks.where did this *** evil came from.If you love your fellow man you will not infect them with HIV. PREACH LOVE

[sparkyforfun]

Line of people on a bridge in front of you. you see them jump off and die. Your turn do you jump and die or do change and live,,,,,, For years men get stinky on the pinking and get AIDS. You become of age do you follow in their steps,,,, NO, but they do!

[gop_forever]

That has to be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posted by ktgilb1
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I know how they get that disease. They should be ashamed of themselves!

[jediservant]

If you actually studied religious doctrine, then you would know: Diseases are not punishments for sin, they are consequences of sin. According to religion, punishments for sin (such as the mythical global flood) occurred before God sent Jesus to die for everyone. After that the price was paid and the punishments were over. If you are going to preach, make sure you get it right!
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Posted by ibzjem

I study "religious doctrine" and I can tell you that even today God does use plagues and pestilence to bring judgement on the world. You can read about it in the book of Revelation.