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- The right to self-defense supercedes all other rights.
Posted by diatreme at 10:52 AM : Jul 28, 2008
so if a business owner does not want guns on his property, those who carry guns should take their business elsewhere--one persons rights end, where the other person rights begin--think about this--if business owners can prevent their employees from carrying on site, how is that enforceable if others (customers/visitors) are allowed to carry on site? LOL - Reply to this comment
- If you had half a brain you would realize what this is about. If your workplace will not allow you to keep your gun in your car at work, they are effectively denying your right to carry to and from work. If you work 5 days a week, that''''s 5 days you cannot carry your gun.
Suppose you need to go shopping AFTER work? Or run errands? Pick up your kids? Take your pick. If companies don''''t want gun IN there workplaces that''''s fine with me, but OUTside the building should be fine, especially secured in your PERSONAL vehicle.
The guy from Brandsmart was an idiot. Patrons of the store can carry guns IN his store, but his employees can''''t keep guns in their CARS. What sense does that make?
Posted by Archangel-45 at 12:32 PM : Jul 28, 2008
I''ve got more than half a brain. In Kansas last year a girl was kidnapped right in the Target parking lot. The scenario I stated tongue in cheek can very well happen--when/if it does, a gun locked in a car will be useless as would a gun locked in a desk or gun cabinet--with a perp perhaps between the victim and that gun. That is just common sense--and the person would have to leave that gun in the car at every place which publicly prohibited such weapons inside--like all government buildings, like day cares, like nursing homes and hospitals--like any place where a lot of people could be gunned down by one person with a gun permit and license to carry. Did Cho have a license to carry at Virginia Tech? - Reply to this comment
- The government has neither the responsibility nor the power to ensure your safety as an individual. Only you can do that. It''''s time that you took charge of your own personal safety.
Posted by TheOneKen at 05:40 AM : Jul 28, 2008
Actually, it is supposed to be illegal to take the law into our own hands, vigilante justice would undermine the rule of law. WE are granted the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from being taken over by a rogue government--but we are in the midst of a rogue government and have done nothing--so the intent of that right is not exercised anyone. "don''t taze me bro" Now people get tazed (sometimes to death) just for talking. - Reply to this comment
- Those who abuse their privileges or have a record should not be allowed to have a weapon.
Posted by whatinthewld at 04:01 AM : Jul 28, 2008
Yep--but...those who abuse that privilege might leave a few dead innocents in their wake before the gun is taken away...ya can''t fix or even compensate morally for dead people. - Reply to this comment
- A good guys is not a bad guy until he uses a gun to threaten, injure or kill another human. Yes we are all certainly capable of evil, but the fact that you can''''t trust a good guy tells me that you don''''t seem to trust your own emotions - Counsellors are available 24 hours at 1800-beforeilooseit or beforeilooseit.com They will help you own a gun without worrying about the bad good guys.
Sleep and smile on those thoughts for a while......
Posted by whatinthewld at 04:43 AM : Jul 28, 2008
Hmmmm. something tells me you would be singing an entirely different tune, if you and your family was gunned down in public while strolling---because one of the "bad, good guys" went berserk or thought he saw a crime in progress and fired without making sure he had a clear shot. It may be fun to make fun of what andor is saying--but he does have a point. The fact is, this could all go so wrong on a number of fronts and the difference is--that those "who are irresponsible" may only be found to be so--after they kill or harm someone. You can''t fix dead. - Reply to this comment
- andor3
You are wrong. The bad guy ius a bad guy bcause he chooses niot to obey the laws. A good guy does obey the laws. It is that simople. Your laws do not stop a bad guy from braking them, thus we are forced to protct ourselves from the bad guys.
Posted by patriot12436 at 03:12 AM : Jul 28, 2008
Patriot, Circumstances determine whether someone snaps and commits a crime. Lots of seemingly good people snap and commit crimes. Circumstances determine whether laws are followed or ignored. Put too much pressure, bad luck and anger/frustration in a person, then--good or not, law abiding or not, he can snap. With our economy and jobs leaving and people losing everything happening--what do you think the CIRCUMSTANCES for the ordinary Joe will be like in a few years? And when he is at the end of his tether, how many will snap? How many will snap in public with state allowed firearms? This law may end up being repealed--if the killings get out of hand.
The ONLY things that separate a "good guy" from a criminal are timing, circumstances and perspective. At any time, for any of us--it could change for the bad. And I am a proud gun owner--who thinks this carrying law is NOT a good thing. Too many unstable people out there--and a lot of them have committed no crimes....YET. - Reply to this comment
- Ban crime, not my right to protect myself.
There must be thousands of laws describing what I can not do with the firearm I legally carry.
Criminals have full protection under our laws once they have committed a crime.
If I ever had the unfortunate opportunity to fire my firearm to stop a crime against myself, family or other innocent person, I would be in the most devastating financial and criminal trouble trouble of my life. The criminal would on the other hand be protected by a thousand laws.
I have no doubt that I would save myself and family but it makes my doubt if I would intervene to save your son or daughter. I may turn away and let the police draw the chalk outline. - Reply to this comment
- Do you think everything you do is good ? That would be delusional and scary.
Posted by patriot12436 at 01:56 AM : Jul 28, 2008
do you think everything the next person does is good? (he''ll have a gun too)That would be delusional and scary also. The fact is, as tempers flare and people become more and more angry and frustrated with conditions in America--GA and FL are headed for the Wild, wild west.
As for arguments about protection--they have to keep the guns in their cars--so what criminal is going to wait for one of these people to "go and get their gun?" - Reply to this comment
- Some of this talk is truly amazing. You can carry a gun to work, leave it in your car in the parking lot, but at my work, you get fired for smoking in your parked car in the parking lot. !?!?!
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- andor3
I have been a responsible gun owner all my life, obey all the laws, do not abuse anyone, do niot drink, never mistook my friends or family members as thieves, nor has anyone i know. Perhaps the fantasy is in your mind thinking if i don''''t admit or recognize the danger it cannot harm me.
Posted by patriot12436 at 01:48 AM : Jul 28, 2008
I''m a gun owner too--but here''s the thing--you may be responsible--but that does not mean that the next person who would also be allowed to carry and use is responsible. That fear and paranoia works both ways. Imagine someone cuts you off on the road or you have to break suddenly and the car behind you almost rear ends you--now you--as a considerate person, gets out to make sure the other driver is fine and he--in the throes of road rage, shoots you--or your family member.
I have a gun in my home, but one carried as a free for all not only is prone to misuse it is guaranteed to be abused--because not everyone in America is stable or sane or even responsible and if they can all have guns in public--things may go from bad to worse. - Reply to this comment
