Comments on: Take Your Gun To Work? Two States Say Yes
New Laws In Florida And Georgia Allow People To Take Their Weapons To Work With Them
- Mark Strassman''s "report" on the change of law in Georgia as it relates to parking lot firearm carry is severely lacking in pertinent detail.
Firstly, the law that permits employers to store their weapons in cars while at work applies only to gun owners that are licensed to carry weapons. And then it applies only to places of employment whose parking lots aren''t secured. Even then, there is a list of prohibited places that are exempted from the law. And if I''m not mistaken, the word "licensee" or any other word or phrase meant to introduce the class of people to whom this law specifically applies does not appear a single time throughout the body of the writing.
Secondly, the freedom of license holders to carry in restaurants that pour alcohol, on public transit including in the non-secure areas of the airport, and in state parks that aren''t on land leased from the federal government was enacted into law on July 1st. The time has passed to question if these freedoms are to be allowed by upstanding, peaceable citizens. The people of Georgia and the General Assembly have already spoken. Further, the Governor of Georgia has gone on record to state that he supports people exercising their right to self defense at the airport and that he wouldn''t want his wife to go about Hartsfield-Jackson unarmed. So Anne Stone is not the only Georgia mother who is worried for her safety while out in the public unarmed. - Reply to this comment
- (con''t)
Thirdly, the story written here misleads the reader to believe that Ben DeCosta, General Manager of Hartsfield-Jackson Airport, has initiated legal action to prevent firearms from entering the facility. The reality of the situation is that DeCosta, the Mayor of Atlanta, and the City of Atlanta are all defendants in the federal lawsuit. Federal courts are looking at the new measures because the plaintiff seeks relief from the defendants for illegal property seizure and arrest while traveling to and from Hartsfield armed. Incidentally, the plaintiff in this federal 1983 action is the author of the law enacted on July 1.
Fourthly, airport carry by license holders is perfectly legal in forty other states in the US in the non-secure areas of the building and parking lots. CBS succeeded in mentioning that only six other states allow employees to store their lawfully owned firearms in their cars while at work but conveniently neglected to mention how many other states permit airport carry.
Lastly, there is no force of law in Georgia that stipulates that a person with a firearm license carry concealed. Just thought you folks should know that.
In closing, CBS really did a rough-cut job of reporting the issues and facts surrounding the new law as it relates to Georgia. If their reporters refuse to impart the relevant facts to the readers here so that they may arrive at an informed opinion, I will see to it myself just to set the record straight. - Reply to this comment
- toldyouso12
They want to ban me, an honest, law abiding citizen from carrying my gun in my car at work. They don''t ban a criminal from parking there.
I''ve seen plenty of NO FIREARMS ALLOWED signs but when did you last see a NO RAPISTS, NO FELONS, or NO DIRT BAGS Allowed sign?
My point is that the laws are all upside down. If forced to protect myself or family against bodily harm I would expect to be arrested, and force to fight for my life in both state and civil court. I would of course take the action necessary to save my family but a stranger, I may have to decide to walk away.
Hey, I''m on your side. Getting a concealed carry permit is not easy, and it should not be. Once vetted however, there needs to be no restrictions as to when or where I can carry.
The media never includes the facts about a gun used in a crime. Was the actor a licensed gun owner? Guns in the hands of licensed, vetted people are not a danger to anyone other then the dirt bag who chose him or her as a target.
Lets see a total of crimes committed by licensed gun owners vs unlicensed criminals. Lets see the words "licensed" or "unlicensed" included in all the articles and news commentaries. Let the people see who is committing the gun crime.
Yes, Ban crime, not guns. - Reply to this comment
- More blood has been spilled in the name of religion than anything else . Way way before and after Hitler and Stalin. " posted by Rytom64
Finally, somebody who makes a little bit of sense on this comment board!!! Thank you, Rytom64!!!!
Posted by GoDawgs20082 at 01:09 PM : Jul 28, 2008
Spilling blood of the masses is not a contest. No one wins a prize for spilling less or more than the other. The fact is, widescale mayhem, death and destruction can take place whether religion is used as the cover for it or not--and as I said (even for the churches) massive death is always preceded by a massive greed for money and/or power. That is the reason for wars and inquisitions etc--to either gain more land, colonies, money, resources, etc--in the end, it is like trying to determine which is wetter--water or milk--they both are--. People do not suffer a finer death if it is done in the name of religion and people who die due to totalitarianism or dictators or greed don''t get a better death, because religion was not involved. That is a fact. There are no halos here. LOL - Reply to this comment
- If you had half a brain you would realize what this is about. If your workplace will not allow you to keep your gun in your car at work, they are effectively denying your right to carry to and from work.
Posted by Archangel-45 at 12:32 PM : Jul 28, 2008
Gee, Archangel--I guess the half of brain I do have belongs to you and contains the part about reading comprehension. The article says the law will join 6 other states in allowing people to keep weapons in their parked cars. Unless people are going to be accosted by criminals in traffic or after they get back into their cars--according to this article, they are going to be as helpless as they ever were. Like I said, are they going to plead or bargain for the right to get back to their cars and get their guns?
From the article: "Just this month, Georgia and Florida expanded state gun laws. People can now bring guns to work, so long as they leave them in their parked cars, joining gun owners in six other states with similar laws."
Just let me know when you leave your half brain back--I realize my keeping in deprives you of all the sense you might have had. ROTFLMAO - Reply to this comment
- donnie10411 - It might be the very person that is allowed to carry at work that saves your very life from a nut job off the street that just dosen''''t like the company you work for and you were just the first one he saw and attacked. The employee carrying could stop them first we hope before anyone get hurt. If no one has a weapon, maybe one of your co-workers could throw a phone at the nut job.
Posted by alien_view at 12:23 PM : Jul 28, 2008
Provided that person got to their locked car and got that gun out first. Read the article--they are allowed to keep them in their parked cars--now if we can all just get criminals to commit crimes in an orderly fashion and to wait while all the vigilantes go and get their guns from their cars. READ THE ARTICLE. - Reply to this comment
- No one can stop a determined individual from going to their car or home for a weapon and coming back to commit a crime. What we can do is be prepared for that confratation should it happen. The nut will not care wheather it is a gun, knife, bow, bomb or car. they don''''t care, they just want to get even anyway they can, as fast as they can. They could drive through the postoffice, do we ban all cars?????
Posted by alien_view at 12:18 PM : Jul 28, 2008
You do realize that the article states that these laws have gun owners leaving their guns in their cars, right? So who will be prepared? Think criminals will wait until they can have a fair fight?
From the article: "Just this month, Georgia and Florida expanded state gun laws. People can now bring guns to work, so long as they leave them in their parked cars, joining gun owners in six other states with similar laws."
What good is a gun in a locked car? Or did all of you law abiding citizens think you could just carry them wherever you go? - Reply to this comment
- Ban crime, not my right to protect myself.
Posted by TAG1737 at 12:39 PM : Jul 28, 2008
Uhmmmmmmmm. Crime is already banned. That is why it is called.........crime. (and you want to carry a gun?) LMAO - Reply to this comment
- Why the heck do you think we need to be armed down here? Orlando is not safe. Don''''t bring your families down here either. You can blame Bush for the state of the rest of the country.
Posted by impeach__W at 12:00 PM : Jul 28, 2008
I was in FL just last year--2 weeks in Orlando with my family--great time--no problems whatsoever. Maybe it is not that Orlando is not safe--but where you are in Orlando--we had no problems at our hotel, no problems at Disney World, Universal or all the other sights we went to , We then traveled to Beaches on the Coast and to Clearwater. Now if you said Tampa was not safe--I''d have to agree. - Reply to this comment
- "More blood has been spilled in the name of religion than anything else . Way way before and after Hitler and Stalin. " posted by Rytom64
Finally, somebody who makes a little bit of sense on this comment board!!! Thank you, Rytom64!!!! - Reply to this comment
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