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Coal Industry Launches Ad Campaign To Support Energy Alternative, But Some Say Technology Hasn't Caught Up Yet

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by terrorislami June 21, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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Newsmax.com - 31000 Scientists Debunk Al Gore and Global WarmingMay 19, 2008 ... 31000 Scientists Debunk Al Gore and Global Warming ... (OISM) announced the results of a drive asking scientists to sign a petition stating: ...
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by nordeck52 June 21, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
""There is no such thing as clean coal," says James Hansen, NASA''s expert on global warming, who says all coal plants, even TECO''s, still emit millions of tons of carbon dioxide - the most threatening greenhouse gas."


Right about clean coal being an oxymoron. Wrong about carbon dioxide being the most dangerous greenhouse gas. Over 95% of the greenhouse effect is caused by water vapor. The remaining percentage is where the CO2 and methane come into play.
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by denn034 June 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
Pipe dream it is. Let''s just be honest about it.
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by pollroller1 June 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
djconklin solar panels may not be the whole answer, but they would be a good start in the right direction.
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by djconklin June 21, 2008 5:52 PM EDT
"We have solar, hydro and Wind potential coming out our buttsides, why don''''t we USE it?"

Solar panels are ab''t 20% efficient. A wind turbine that produces 400 KwH costs $5400 and then the 120'' tower cost over $15k. That''s why we don''t use it.
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by djconklin June 21, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
I know solar panels will work because they are used on the roofs of RVs all the time to keep the batteries charged.

RV''s don''t need much power. Would you like to live in that cramped space all the time?
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by luvcomments June 21, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
talk2chief

Thank you so much for your answers re anthracite and coke vs. coal. Sounds like you really know your stuff.
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by downsteamjim June 21, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
James Hansen is Al Gore''s big buddy. He is as objective as Rush Limbaugh.
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by ubrew12 June 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
jlhuslig said: "Until alternative energy is cost effective (without govt. susbsidies) and capable of reliable 24/7 substantial amounts of power, it cannot be even considered an alternative energy supply."

Nuclear is the most expensive form of energy, followed by ocean thermal, solar, clean coal, wave, ordinary coal and oil, and wind. Yes, wind is the lowest cost form of energy out there today.

The economist magazine (no enviro-nazi rag) estimates that improvements in solar will lower its cost by a factor of 5 in 10 years, making it one of the lowest cost sources out there.

Just because powerful corporate forces have spoon fed you the idea that alternative energy isn''t for ''right now'' but for some fuzzy future, doesn''t mean you have to swallow.

''Evil'' government subsidies built our many dams sixty years ago. They paid for themselves 30 years later, and today pump free energy onto the grid: 20% of what we actually use. Sure, renewables are expensive undertakings in the short term. In the long term (terms too long for corporations to profit from), they pay dividends that last for decades. And if its not right for Exxon, they''ll convince you that its not right for you either.
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by jlhuslig June 21, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
If for nothing else, Clean Coal is needed for the existing coal plants. Of course the enviro-nazis just want to carbon tax these plants until their energy is no longer affordable. Then the unreliable alternative energy sources would be cost effective, but only to provide enough energy for a substantially reduced standard of living.

Abundant energy, even at today''s high prices, is one of the greatest bargains that is responsible for the improving standard of living worldwide. Until alternative energy is cost effective (without govt. susbsidies) and capable of reliable 24/7 substantial amounts of power, it cannot be even considered an alternative energy supply. It is an alternative energy supply in name only and by decree of politicians. That is reality!
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