Comments on: Marching Over Vaccines And Autism

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[jtea4me2]

This is for Smitty48. It is interesting to see that instead of commenting on the issue at hand, you only comment on Jim Carey''s statement. He should be taken as seriously as Bob Hope was, when it came to supporting our troops. They both have a cause they believe in (or believed in) & had the courage to stand up for their beliefs or causes. What should we believe about you, when you make the topic of conversation Jim Carey & not autism. Get real!

[garbosmed]

Exactly. I mean, these people are trained journalists, right? So either they are totally stupid, which is why they rely on the same small cadre of Pharma shills for their information without ever seeking the truth, or they and their bosses/companies are totally financially compromised, which is why they rely on the same small cadre of Pharma shills for their information without ever seeking the truth.

[redfirefly19]

"Maybe someone should do a story on how much of CBS News'''' budget comes from Pharma advertising. And how much Pharma stock is held by board members and executives."
I agree Garbosmed...
I had thought about this when obviously seeing the whole report was one sided. With the ridiculous amount of drug ads running on any tv station, it''s obvious they are paid to run these ads therefore are going to sway opinions in their favor.
Sorry, but it happens everyday and is a complete OUTRAGE.
So much for unbiased journalism..it''s pretty hard to find in the regular mainstream media.
Shame on you CBS!!!

[garbosmed]

Maybe someone should do a story on how much of CBS News'' budget comes from Pharma advertising. And how much Pharma stock is held by board members and executives. Now that''s something I think we would all be interested in - financial ties between big media and the pharmaceutical industry. Like when Merck (or was it a different one?) invited the head of Reuters to be on its board.

[rlford3]

Back to our story from the last post, at 2 1/2 years Matthew was assessed by a team of experts to have an IQ of 50 (less than the 1st percentile). Since that time we have impemented many of the therapies that Jenny outlines in her book, especially the GF/CF/SF diet (our sons are almost the same age) and now Matthew is fully recovered--at the top of his "regular" pre-K class, has lots of friends and is playing soccer like a pro! But, as anyone who has been down this road knows, it has been an extremely difficult and expensive journey--one that many do not have the resources to make, so I whole-heartedly join Jim and Jenny in lobbying for safer vaccines and a safer schedule.
Rachel Ford, Ed.S.

[rlford3]

I have a child who was mercury poisoned from his Dec. 2003 vaccines which included the flu shot. He lost all language and gestures and slipped into his own world/developed Autism within 2 months of these 15 mos. vaccines. I checked lot numbers and found out that ALL FOUR OF HIS 2003 DTaP SHOTS along with his flu shot had 25 MCG/DOSE OF THIMEROSAL. Eight months later, Matthew''s blood tested positive for mercury! (He had never had even a taste of fish--nor did I consume fish during pregnancy and nobody else in our house tested positive for mercury.) IN May OF 2005 I ANONYMOUSLY CALLED OUR LARGE CARY, N.C. PEDIATRIC OFFICE AND FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE STILL USING UP STOCKPILES OF THE SAME THIMEROSAL DTAP SHOTS THAT MY SON RECEIVED!! So NO, THE THIMEROSAL WAS NOT REMOVED from the vaccines a decade ago as the above article states! In addition, the "rising rate of autism" is based on statistics of EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS in Feb. of 07 who had to have received most of their childhood vaccines BETWEEN 1999 and 2001 when everyone agrees that mercury was still present in ALMOST ALL of the vaccines. Of course, most flu shots and tetanus shots still contain 25 mcgs of thimerosal and they are routinely given to pregnant women and young infants. Aluminum content in vaccines has also increased in the last few years.
Rachel Ford, Ed.S.

[mrsdogood]

Hey smitty448, what did susieq_13 say to make you believe her child wasn''t vaccinated? Did she not say her child has the mind of a 2 mo. old (at 17) because she got a round of bad shots? THAT MEANS HER CHILD RECEIVED HER VACCINES! If you have a problem with susieq_13''s post and/or stance, you have a choice too you know. You and your offspring can move to an unnamed island south of the spinal cord.

[weewyatt]

Here''s what''s in vaccines...right off the CDC Website. I wouldn''t give these to my dog. Enough Said.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-1.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

[jtea4me2]

I think the interview Katie Couric gave was one sided.
It mentioned the purpose of the walk but interviewed drs., etc. who all agreed that autism was not related to the immunizations or the importance of immuniza-tions. Why did they not interview professionals
that can prove otherwise? Wake up! Our government & pharmaceutical companies do not want us to know the truth. They just tell us what they want us to believe or to know. They are afraid to admit the truth because they would be responsible and liable for all of the children affected with autism. It all gets down to dollars & cents and who is benefitting. It is time to think about the children they are putting at risk and at whose expense are they lining their pockets. Our children are our future. Don''t you think they should be our number one concern. Not the profits others are making from their negligence to be honest & forthcoming. As Jim Carrey said yesterday, "How stupid do you think we are?"

[redfirefly19]

"No mercury-containing vaccines were ever recalled and it took years for manufacturers to convert to mercury-free vaccines. LaPook neglects to tell us that ninety percent of the flu vaccine each year contains a horrendous level of mercury and that it''''s given to pregnant women at all stages of pregnancy and to babies as young as six months.

Kenneth Stoller, MD
President, International Hyperbaric Medical Association"

THANK YOU DOCTOR!!! It irritates me beyond belief that people do not SEE this!! NO SHOTS WERE EVER RECALLED..therefore current stock were used up before ever receiving newer vaccines...hence the argument that mercury was taken out but autism continues to rise is null...children still received these unsafe vaccines, besides the yearly flu shots which are still loaded with toxins.
PEOPLE..CHECK THE INGREDIENTS on the labels before being injected!!

[redfirefly19]

I just don''t get it...what is the problem with making vaccines and schedules safer...why would anyone even fight this??? It''s incomprehensible to me that people do not question whether or not something being injected into their child''s body or their own is completely safe and/or necessary. Why do we all succumb to being sheep? Just followers without questioning or using our brains?
I am appalled that CBS did what clearly seems to be a one-sided story. It''s too bad that a topic that could be helped greatly by more non-biased media coverage always seems instead to get pushed aside or reported as pro-Big Pharma.
In the end we all want our children to be healthy...I don''t think asking for safer vaccines across the board is asking too much.

[mrsdogood]

Watch what Dr. Healy, former head of CDC, says in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHxqTyAxZZE

[oxydoc1]

LaPook makes the false claim that mercury was removed "from most childhood vaccines almost a decade ago." In 1999, the AAP and CDC asked, but did not require, mercury be removed. No mercury-containing vaccines were ever recalled and it took years for manufacturers to convert to mercury-free vaccines. LaPook neglects to tell us that ninety percent of the flu vaccine each year contains a horrendous level of mercury and that it''s given to pregnant women at all stages of pregnancy and to babies as young as six months.

Kenneth Stoller, MD
President, International Hyperbaric Medical Association

[susieq_13]

Having your child vaccinated should be a choice. Not the law. My daughter almost died b/c of her 1st set of immunizations. Now she''s 17 with the mind of a 2 month old baby. It''s not bad genes with this incident. Just bad vaccines.

[rational_1]

I think the genetic influnce is actually even higher in autism than SZ.
Posted by rational_1 at 09:08 AM : Jun 05, 2008
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offering opinion as fact puts you on dangerous ground mr. spiccoli.
offering opinion as fact?
Posted by lucasnico at 09:32 AM : Jun 05, 2008

I''ll let the abstract of this recent review answer your question for me. I took a quick look through it; it says that there is a 70-90% concordance for autism between identical twins (higher than for schizophrenia). Happy?

Advances in autism genetics: on the threshold of a new neurobiology.
Abrahams BS, Geschwind DH.
Nature Reviews Genetics 9:341-355 (2008).
Autism is a heterogeneous syndrome defined by impairments in three core domains: social interaction, language and range of interests. Recent work has led to the identification of several autism susceptibility genes and an increased appreciation of the contribution of de novo and inherited copy number variation. Promising strategies are also being applied to identify common genetic risk variants. Systems biology approaches, including array-based expression profiling, are poised to provide additional insights into this group of disorders, in which heterogeneity, both genetic and phenotypic, is emerging as a dominant theme.

[amdachel]

Katie Couric tells us that the CDC, WHO, and the AAP "all say these vaccines are safe and essential."

Dr. Jon LaPook decries the parents marching to demand that Congress clean up the vaccine schedule. We''re told "marchers have forgotten the consequences of failing to vaccinate properly." It should be pointed out that the parents who came to Washington are the ones who did vaccinate. Countless thousands of them also report that their normally progressing kids regressed into autism following these vaccines.

Katie Couric seems to have forgotten the recent story from CBS News about vaccines and autism. Sharyl Attkisson interviewed Dr. Bernadine Healy, former head of the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Healy challenged the credibility of the CDC and admonished officials for refusing to investigate a susceptible subgroup of children who unable to eliminate the toxins in vaccines. Her interview is a major step toward public recognition about what''s happened to our children.

Anne McElroy Dachel
Chippewa Falls, WI
Media Editor AGE OF AUTISM

[mrsdogood]

To blame genes and better diagnostic tools for the rise in the Autism rates is disingenous at best, ignorant at worst. Autism Spectrum Disorders are being diagnosed as 1 in 150 in the general population. The diagnosis rate for boys alone is 1 in 94. These numbers reflect those who''ve been diagnosed. Many more children don''t get a diagnosis until school age (if ever), due to a host of reasons; therefore, the rate is probably higher. Now if we are to blame "faulty genes" alone, then you would see a lot more people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. walking around with this condition. It is simply impossible to have a "genetic epidemic." That is an oxymoron! To blame the increase in detection and early diagnosis is also disingenous because that would mean our parents and grandparents were simply too stupid to recognize a blatant neurological disability in their own children. Keep in mind these numbers: 1 in 150 (1 in 94 boys) when I say that. What many people fail to understand is that the CDC/FDA rely on POPULATION studies for vaccine safety. These studies were conducted and paid for by the same vaccine manufacturing pharmaceutical companies. Needless to say they didn''t find any evidence of harm due to vaccines. It''s like asking the defendant to be judge and juror in his own trial.

[lucasnico]

I think the genetic influnce is actually even higher in autism than SZ.

Posted by rational_1 at 09:08 AM : Jun 05, 2008
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offering opinion as fact puts you on dangerous ground mr. spiccoli.

offering opinion as fact?

[midwestmom4]

I''m no expert on this, have read some books but basically uneducated. I do have a son who accidentally received an EXTRA round of immunizations in the 3rd grade. We moved a lot when he was young. When we arrived in our current state, I took my 3 sons to the doctor for shots & handed the nurse all of their documentation from various states. They realized AFTER they gave him a round of shots that he had ALREADY had those in another state. At the time we laughed, just thought "Hey, he definately won''t be getting any of those illnesses". He is 20 now. At that point, he became "different". He was "diagnosed" with ADD & it was suggested that he may have Aspergers by 1 of his doctors. I didn''t want him labeled though, and he was never seen by any expert,only our family physician. The change was literally overnight, school has always been rough and I hope someday drug companies will simply work for a cure instead of protecting their reputation.

[rational_1]

My daughter got her autism from my very own genes...
Posted by lambofgoth at 07:11 AM : Jun 05, 2008

Right. And like a lot of other psychiatric illnesses (eg. depression, alcoholism) it comes down to a combination of genes and environment. For example the prevalence of schizophrenia in the general population is about 1%, so the odds of any of us getting it at random are pretty low. However, if your identical twin becomes schizophrenic your odds are now 50%; if it''s a fraternal twin the odds are about a third of that - clearly a genetic component. But it''s not 100% even in identical twins, so clearly environment must also be playing a role. The big BIG question then become exactly in the environment and how good is your evidence demonstrating causality. I think the genetic influnce is actually even higher in autism than SZ.