Comments on: Shock Over Chicago Student Gun Deaths

In This School Year Alone, 24 Students Were Killed, Leaving City Rattled To The Core

[knndykills]

They only delete posts of people who are off topic, or people who overreport others just cause they disagree with them.

[proudgunownr]

knndykills,
Don''t say CBS is wrong, they will just delete your posts.

[knndykills]

So now pro gun and anti gun people are complaining that their posts are deleted. Sounds like CBS is pissing everyone off

[ken1dall]

I am sorry for the families of the shooting victims. But, guns have already been banned in Chicago for all the good that did. Probably made a bunch of bleeding heart liberals happy at the time the ban was imposed. Maybe it is time to restore the individual''s right to self-defense. I blame a public education system run amuck, packed with a bunch of idealistic union teachers that no longer teach responsibility, respect, or patriotism, that allow children to come to school with their hats on backwards and their pants down around their knees. What a bright future is in store for us.

[billorights]

There are people on the lower rungs of society to DO need help, and the more capitalistic a society becomes, the more people like this there are.- Posted by USBrit at 03:27 PM : Apr 23, 2008

I generally check the bathwater fairly carefully before tossing it, and the babies are all accounted for here.

There are very definitely needy people who could not survive but for the state. The problem is that we are too busy providing handouts to everyone with a hand out, and there is too little left for those who really need it the most. The liberal solution, in my experience, is to tax more and spend more, with little regard for who must pay the bill.

As an example, our virtually open border to the south guarantees the presence of a permanent second class that lives in an invisible economy largely dependent on the state. The resources consumed by this group should be reserved and available for our own neediest citizens and legal residents, who have been far outnumbered by the sheer mass of illegal aliens who have become dependent on liberal largesse.

Responsible spending of tax dollars would acknowledge that there is no endless supply of money available just because there are still checks in the checkbook.

[usbrit-2009]

BillORights - thanks again for a well thought out answer. The trouble with this thesis from a liberal''s point of view is you''re throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There are people on the lower rungs of society to DO need help, and the more capitalistic a society becomes, the more people like this there are. There will always be cheaters who want a hand-out, the problem here is separating the cheaters from the truly needy. You can''t dump on the needy because you may feed a few cheaters, the same way as you can''t dump on IT people because a few cheaters use computers for insurance fraud.

[billorights]

I realized that nature doesn''t evolve to a higher state from a lower one - Posted by LibH8er

Don%u2019t be so sure. Look what happened when all the good tasting dinosaurs died off, and there was nothing left to eat but tofu. :)

[billorights]

My screen name is a personal ''jihad'' against leftwing liberalism. I think socialist liberalism is the single most dangerous movement to the United States'' well being right after islamo-terrorism.

Posted by LibH8er

WHY? - Posted by USBrit at 02:01 PM : Apr 23, 2008

I will provide my own $.02.

The word liberalism connotes visions of a society in which individuals are not expected to assume responsibility for their own actions or their own wellbeing.

The state is expected to provide for those who are unwilling to provide for themselves, usually at the expense of those who need help the most. There is little, if any, differentiation made between those who cannot help themselves and those who will not. The redistribution of wealth from those who have earned it to those who have not, in the name of progress, provides the illusion that WE ARE ENLIGHTENED AND WE CARE, except for the wage earner who pays taxes and struggles to support his family.

The individual is expected, and encouraged, to become dependent on the state, leading to an endless cycle of dependence, and ultimate hopelessness.

The state makes decisions for the benefit of the masses who are deemed unfit to think for themselves. Constitutional law is redefined by judicial fiat, in the name of political correctness, again for the benefit of the masses who need big government to do their thinking for them.

[mcapek]

Another success story of Mr. Daleys strict Chicago anti-gun laws. Handguns are strictly banned in Chicago (except for Daley''s bodyguards, other elite and police, of course), yet, somehow those laws and policies do not seem to have any effect, do they.
How about proposing a DOUBLE - DOUBLE No Handguns in Chicago Law. Yep, that is the solution. I demand Mr. Daley introduce the DOUBLE-DOUBLE feel good law today!!

[acolton1]

Stricter Gun laws will do nothing. The person pulling the trigger needs be executed within 30 days. Just like they do in the Middle East. That will put a stop to this stuff. Criminals just get a slap on the had for killing somebody. Law need to change to favor the victim.